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Attack on Las Vegas Sex
Industry
Recently, Bob Herbert wrote an
opinion piece in the NYT about a new self-published book by
Melissa Farley entitled, "Prostitution and Trafficking in
Nevada: Making the Connections." Herbert and Farley claim that
not only is all prostitution bad for women, but that Nevada's
sex industry is degrading and demeaning to all women in Nevada,
and that somehow women here are worse off because of it.
We have collected all the
articles on this we could find, and you can see them all here.
First, here is the nonprofit
coalition set up with Melissa Farley, and the rest are articles
and blog entries.
The Nevada
Coalition Against Sex Trafficking
(NCAST)
The Nevada
Coalition Against Sex Trafficking (NCAST) is a non-governmental,
nonprofit organization. NCAST's mission includes educating
Nevadans and other concerned citizens about the harms of
prostitution, including the underlying and fundamental human
rights violations of prostitution, the link between prostitution
(both legal and illegal) and human trafficking, and developing
and promoting policy and functional alternatives to current laws
and practices within the State of Nevada.
NCAST will build
a diverse coalition of organizations and individuals dedicated
to achieving progressive reform of Nevada's laws on prostitution
and trafficking. NCAST will also establish an education and
assistance program for women leaving the sex trade. We will
collaborate with survivors of prostitution to determine what
programs currently exist and then evaluate those programs to
determine gaps in service. Once the gaps have been identified,
we will work collaboratively with our partners to develop
innovative solutions that would assist women in transitioning
out of the sex industry and also discourage others from entering
prostitution.
Addressing men’s
demand for prostitution is also critical. We seek to reduce the
demand for sexual exploitation by developing educational
programs and campaigns aimed at men and boys and by supporting
the enforcement of existing laws against solicitation.
The work of
NCAST will be a multi-year project. We hope to establish some
best practices to dealing with these egregious forms of sexual
exploitation that can be replicated elsewhere.
Candice Trummell
serves as the executive director of NCAST. Trummell is the
former chairman of the Nye County Commission. We welcome members
and partners committed to the mission of NCAST. Please contact
us at web@nevadacoalition.org. Our first event will take place
later this year. Time and location are to be announced.
Here is a
snapshot of our action plan in Nevada:
Build a strong coalition of survivors, organizations with
similar goals and interests in the areas of human trafficking
and sexual exploitation, and leaders from Nevada (political,
community, church, business, and labor).
NCAST will
identify and recruit members from all spectrums who are
dedicated to our organization's mission and values. Survivors
will be an integral component of the leadership of our
organization.
Seek enforcement of existing laws on prostitution and
trafficking, especially with respect to arresting men who buy
women and children for sex.
NCAST will
initially seek enforcement of existing laws related to pimps and
johns. This is not a solution to the problems in Nevada as the
laws themselves need to be reformed. However, as we work through
the political and legal reform movement, this step will serve to
help raise the awareness of individuals and leaders regarding
the prevalence of prostitution and sex trafficking in Nevada and
will start helping hold the perpetrators of these crimes against
women accountable.
Advocate for political reform that replaces Nevada's
legalized prostitution laws with progressive laws such as those
in Sweden that address men’s demand.
NCAST has
learned via research and via the experience of other countries
that the problem of prostitution and sex trafficking is best
addressed not through legalization or decriminalization but
through establishing and vigorously enforcing laws that hold
perpetrators - johns and pimps - accountable with felony-level
charges while at the same time provide safe housing and long
term services for the victims. Prostitution and others who
benefit from sex trafficking in Nevada are well entrenched in
the political system. Many of the local citizenry have been
programmed to believe that prostitution is a victimless crime.
Achieving reform in Nevada will be a major campaign against much
better funded and sometimes dangerous opponents.
Educate women and youth alternatives to prostitution and
assist them in transitioning out of prostitution.
NCAST will work
with survivors, service providers and other partners to develop
an education and assistance program for women and youth in
prostitution. Those involved in this industry will have a wide
range of needs that must be met in order for them to escape this
life including, but not limited to the following types of
services:
Basic needs such
as food, clothing and shelter
Health services
such as drug and alcohol addiction treatment, psychological
counseling, treatment of violence-and-trauma-related injuries
Job training and
placement
Educate the general public on the harms of prostitution and
trafficking
By and large,
the citizens of the State of Nevada see prostitution as either a
victimless crime or a legitimate industry in which women are
paid and treated well and brothel owners give back to the
communities. One tenth of one percent (0.1%) is an extremely
conservative estimate of the number of citizens who know what
women and girls in prostitution, even in legal brothels, endure.
Educating the Nevada public in a way that makes them care about
those in prostitution will be a challenging process.
Work in collaboration with survivors of prostitution to
develop educational and outreach programs for women considering
entering the business of sexual exploitation.
Develop a campaign to end men's demand for prostitution.
There are a
number of campaigns that confront men's demand for prostitution
as the driver of the sex industry. We will explore the use
of educational and legal approaches.
Educate the general public and key policy makers on the link
between prostitution and trafficking.
Currently, the
general public and key policy makers seem willing to take on the
challenge of human trafficking. In order to successfully reform
Nevada's legal system, we will need to educate Nevadans on the
inextricable links between prostitution and human trafficking.
http://www.nevadacoalition.org/
City as
Predator
September 4,
2007
OP-ED COLUMNIST
By BOB HERBERT
Las Vegas
There is
probably no city in America where women are treated worse than
in Las Vegas.
The tone of
systematic, institutionalized degradation is set by the mayor,
Oscar Goodman, who told me in an interview that the city would
reap “tremendous” benefits if a series of “magnificent brothels”
could be established to cater to johns from across the country
and around the world.
“I’ve said there
should be the beginning of a discussion of that,” said Mr.
Goodman, a former defense lawyer for mobsters who unabashedly
describes his city as an adult playground where “anything goes —
as long as you don’t go over the line.”
Most of the
lines in Vegas have long since been erased. It is without a
doubt, as the psychologist and researcher Melissa Farley, says,
“the epicenter of North American prostitution and sex
trafficking.”
Vegas is a place
where women and girls by the tens of thousands are chewed up by
the vast and astonishingly open sex trade. You can be sitting at
a traffic light and a huge mobile billboard will drive past,
promising, “Hot Babes — Direct to Your Room.”
I was drawn to
this story by an advance copy of Ms. Farley’s book-length
report, “Prostitution and Trafficking in Nevada: Making the
Connections.” It’s being published online today.
The report
explores what Oscar Goodman doesn’t appear to understand: the
horrendous toll that prostitution, legal or illegal, takes on
the women and girls involved. If you peel back the thin,
supposedly sexy veneer of the commercial sex trade, you’ll
quickly see the rotten inside, where females are bought, sold,
raped, beaten, shamed and in many, many cases, physically and
emotionally wrecked
Start with the
fact that so many of those who are pulled into the trade are so
young — early-20s, late-teens and younger. Child prostitutes by
the hundreds pass through the Family Division courtroom of Judge
William Voy, who views the hapless, vulnerable girls as victims
and tries to help them. The girls he sees are as young as 12,
with the average age being 14.
He told me about
a 14-year-old who was seven months pregnant by her pimp. She was
suffering from a sexually transmitted disease, had a drug
problem, was undernourished and still craved a relationship with
the pimp. “These cases will tear your heart out,” the judge
said.
Ms. Farley was
asked to study the Nevada sex trade and its consequences 2 ½
years ago by John Miller, who at the time headed the U.S. State
Department’s effort to fight human trafficking around the world.
Prostitution is legal in some parts of Nevada but not in Vegas,
where 90 percent of the state’s prostitution occurs. Vegas is a
world-class embarrassment to any U.S. official attempting to
reduce prostitution and trafficking in foreign countries.
“We did surveys
of people on the street,” said Ms. Farley, “and nearly half
thought prostitution was legal in Las Vegas. Guess why that is?
Massive advertising.”
There are more
than 150 pages of ads in the Las Vegas yellow pages for “college
teens,” “mature women,” “mothers and daughters,” “petite
Japanese women,” “Chinese teens in short skirts” and every other
variation imaginable. I asked Mayor Goodman about that, and he
said: “We’ve changed that a little bit. They used to have
pictures.”
Sex clubs with
teenage girls dancing nude and offering lap dances to johns are
legal, ubiquitous and widely advertised. Many of those girls are
either prostitutes or one short step away.
What is not
widely understood is how coercive all aspects of the sex trade
are. The average age of entry into prostitution is extremely
young. The prostitutes are ruthlessly controlled by pimps, club
owners and traffickers. In the case of legal prostitution, they
are controlled by their own pimps and the brothel owners — pimps
who have been legalized by the state.
The women are
exploited in every way. Most of the money they receive from
johns goes to the pimps, the brothel owners, the escort service
managers and so forth. Strippers and lap dancers have to pay for
the right to dance in the clubs, and the money they get in tips
has to be shared with the club owners, bartenders, bouncers,
etc.
Huge numbers of
foreign women are trafficked into Vegas. The legions of Asian
women in the massage parlors and escort services did not come
flocking to Vegas from suburban U.S.A.
Mayor Goodman
said that he is no fan of illegal prostitution, but is convinced
the legal variety could be a boon. He is proud of his city’s
tourist slogan: “What happens here, stays here.”
Back in the
’90s, Las Vegas tried hard to promote a family-friendly image.
“That ended when
I became mayor,” said Mr. Goodman.
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This article was
originally published in the NYT. It is viewable here also:
http://screwsubwalls.blogspot.com/2007/09/city-as-predator.html
http://greenpagan.blogspot.com/2007/09/city-as-predator.html
http://freedemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/09/bob-herbert-city-as-predator.html
http://www.ohio.com/editorial/commentary/9579667.html
www.pasadenastarnews.com/opinions/ci_6840160
http://www.franklinnow.com/blog/index.aspx?blogid=296&month=09&year=2007&entryid=42973
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1891045/posts
(partial story, with comments and link to NYT)
John Ralston's
Face to Face
Link to videos
in which Farley and Barb Brents appeared**:
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=1560638
**When you click
on link above, scroll to bottom and look for these titles, and
pay particular attention to "Demeaning City?":
And it won't
get you tossed from the Senate either...
.. 09/04/2007
..so long as
it's with a girl.
New York Times
columnist Bob Herbert takes a wide-ranging swat at a staple of
our local economy: whoring. No, not political whoring. The real
whoring.
Herbert draws on
the work of Melissa Farley, whose career has focused on
researching prostitution the world over and who finally turns an
eye toward Nevada. Yes, you'd think she would have started here.
If there's one
way to make a column about prostitution in Nevada even more
offensive and outrageous to people around the country living and
working under the blissfully mistaken impression that the
economics of sexual oppression and exploitation isn't happening
in their town, it's including a substantial number of brain-dead
quotes from Las Vegas' ass clown of a town drunk, Oscar Goodman.
So of course that's exactly what Herbert did.
Thanks to
Goodman's customary wallowing-in-sin schtick, hizzoner finds
himself joking about how he's presiding over a market in human
rights violations — seriously, he can't be this much of a moron
so he must have been hammered when he gave the interview. But
Goodman in performance mode should not detract from the more
significant concerns in Herbert's column, concerns that don't
get enough attention 'round here.
The column is
hidden by the New York Times' ridiculous firewall, almost as if
the paper deliberately wants to make sure that nobody ever sees
it. So we posted it after the jump — courtesy of somebody who
would probably prefer not to be mentioned because spreading the
Times' firewall-secure copy around on the internets for free is
illegal or some crap like that.
Comments
*sigh*...but,
this is who the small minority of populace, those who bothered
to go vote, selected, with the help of donors who have given
hundreds of thousands of dollars in reported and non-reported
contributions.
I didn't know
there were "sex clubs" in LV and I never bothered to look at the
yellkow pages for escort service, let alone know there are 150
pages of advertising broken down into perversions. Maybe there
are so many unseemly billboards on the roadside (and Reid had an
ammendment to keep them there), that many of us don't even look
at them anymore.....
Wonder if the
MSM will comment on this book?
Posted by:
What?! |
09/04/2007 at 11:09 AM
Unquestionably,
prostitution in Las Vegas is legitimized by the mainstream
corporate media here. Pick up a copy of the Greenspun newspaper
"Las Vegas Weekly" or the magazine "944" and check out all the
legitimite full-page glossy ads featuring near-naked young women
in seductive "come-f*ck-me" poses. There is no difference
between advertisements for strip joints or casino nightclubs.
The unmistakable message goes out to girls in this community
that their worth will be based on how much they doll themselves
up to look like big-breasted Tijuana hookers.
Posted by:
RussBBinVegas@aol.com |
09/04/2007 at 12:00 PM
Thing is, it
just ain't for locals anymore. Wait at the airport for arriving
relatives sometime and observe how many of our nubile young
visitors enter baggage claim dressed like hookers. Vegas =
getting laid no matter what. Except for us locals, of course.
Posted by: The
Penguin |
09/04/2007 at 01:17 PM
I'm not here to
defend Las Vegas. But I do feel better knowing that prostitution
and sex clubs and advertising for them have totally disappeared
from the rest of the country.
Posted by:
Keeping Them Honest |
09/04/2007 at 02:32 PM
Those poor,
exploited strippers, forced to drive Lexuses and carry Bulova.
Those poor Pahrump prostitutes, dragged -- er, I mean,
emotionally coerced -- into a life of selling their bodies.
Herbert's moral indignation only clouds his inability to paint
Nevada with anything other than a mile-wide brush. I don't know
what's worse: his creeping paternalism or his strident
condescension. Guess what? There's underage drinking, too. Close
all the bars! Close all the bars! And underage gambling. Close
the casinos! Close the casinos!
I think the
working arrangement he describes in brothels could fit the model
of any functioning office. Like, say, the New York Times.
Posted by: whore
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09/05/2007 at 01:41 PM
Herbert couldn't
have hit the nail any straighter! To reiterate, "There is
probably no city in America where women are treated worse than
in Las Vegas." THAT folks is the pure, unadulterated truth. It
is not just about the prostitution. It is the male attitudes all
over this town. From the police, to the DA, to the Judges. VERY
unfriendly to women overall. And, women, if you divorce in this
town, RUN! Don't live here! Get out of this cesspool of slime.
Posted by:
sanctity |
09/05/2007 at 09:05 PM
It is about time
someone took on the thugs and pimps who run Vegas. Almost
everyone has their hand in the cookie jar. Girls of 17 and 18
years old are seduced in with the promises of fancy cars and big
houses. Once they discover they are expected to service a quota
of at least 5 men a day, give them whatever they want, and split
the money with pimps and cabdrivers and bartenders, the reality
sets in. And once you're in, it is very difficult to get out.
And if you have a violent pimp or work for a violent strip club
owner you can just forget it, you are theirs. And can you call
the police for help? NO! There need to be some services for
women in Vegas who are trying to escape prostitution. Vegas has
to stop using women like this. It is not right.
Posted by: Jason
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09/10/2007 at 02:49 PM
http://www.lasvegasgleaner.com/las_vegas_gleaner/2007/09/and-it-wont-get.html
City as Predator
Tuesday,
September 04, 2007
An
article about Las Vegas appeared in today’s New York Times.
Online, the story is available only to those who subscribe to
“Times Select,” but that didn’t prevent its immediate appearance
in toto on a numbers of blogs (like
this one). I received the story by email last night. My
first thought after reading “City as Predator” was that it was
another annoying rant against Las Vegas by a parachute
journalist on an expense account. Now, in the harsh light of a
hot Vegas day, I still think that, but I also feel inspired to
tap out a comment or two.
“City as Predator” is the work of columnist Bob Herbert. To be
fair, he did drop in on Las Vegas long enough to flip through a
Yellow Pages, interview the mayor, talk to a judge, and notice
that rolling billboard that says “Hot Babes -- Direct to Your
Room.” Which of these pieces of research led him to open his
article with “There is probably no city in America where women
are treated worse than in Las Vegas,” I don’t know. He also
gives no evidence for this statement: “Vegas is a place where
women and girls by the tens of thousands are chewed up by the
vast and astonishingly open sex trade.” Both sentences are
charmingly sensationalistic, but without something more than a
New York Times byline to support them, they’re – well, I guess
the traditional term for such declarations is “yellow.”
Herbert’s underlying thesis is that all prostitution – legal or
not – hurts all women, and prostitution includes not only the
sale of sex acts, but also exotic dancing. Okay, it’s an op-ed
piece, and that’s his “op.” It’s still an unusual definition,
almost as odd as when he refers to patrons of gentlemen’s clubs
as “johns.” It’s a designation I think would surprise the men
and women who frequent them, and I certainly didn’t consider
myself a “john”
the time I went to the Olympic Garden.
Perhaps the most disheartening feature of Mr. Herbert’s piece is
the troubling story provided by Judge William Voy of a
14-year-old girl who was seven months pregnant by her pimp.
“These cases will tear your heart out,” Herbert quoted the judge
as saying. Well, yes, and well they should. Which is why it
isn’t helpful to lump them together with activities that don’t
involve the abuse and exploitation of children.
I suppose by now it seems like I’m a big fan of the Nevada sex
industry. Well, I’m not. I’ve toured a legal brothel or two, and
I’ve gotten a feel for the challenges facing sex workers, and
they’re as varied as they are in any other industry. Is there
exploitation? Of course. Because it exists in a shadow world,
caught between legal and illegal and naughty and proper, there’s
ample opportunity for bad behavior.
Herbert writes, again in enchantingly provocative prose, “If you
peel back the thin, supposedly sexy veneer of the commercial sex
trade, you’ll quickly see the rotten inside, where females are
bought, sold, raped, beaten, shamed and in many, many cases,
physically and emotionally wrecked.” Is he right? I’m sure
plenty of people reading his article will instantly agree,
ignoring the obvious fact that Herbert didn’t do what he
suggests. Looking at the Yellow Pages, observing a billboard,
chatting with a judge, and interviewing our happily garrulous
mayor does not constitute peeling back the veneer, especially
since he obviously arrived with his mind made up. I can’t help
seeing him in my mind’s eye, jumping out of a plane. A bright
yellow parachute billows above him, and when he lands, I see his
matching goggles.
Bob Herbert has a way with words. Maybe someday he’ll spend long
enough in Las Vegas to shed the ‘tude, peel the veneer, and
actually take a look at what’s here. Maybe then his observations
would be worth pondering.
posted by Megan
Edwards @
Tuesday, September 04, 2007
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3 Comments:
At
4:08 PM , Mark Sedenquist said...
I think the most
outrageous and asine comment he makes is this one:
"...“ Vegas is a place where women and girls by the tens of
thousands are chewed up by the vast and astonishingly open sex
trade...” Let's see I haved lived and worked in Las Vegas for
nearly eight years which is a little longer than this columnist
and somehow I have missed meeting any of these "tens of
thousands" of women. Maybe they are simply incognito -- but I
see mothers, daughters and other family members every day on my
appointed rounds and I really don't think ANY of them are
engaged in the sex trade. I think this writer is a disgrace to
the journalism community and his rants should be recoginized for
what they are. I find it especially bizarre that he never seemed
to have interviewed any women. Great work, guy.
At
7:21 AM ,
Andre said...
To Megan and
Mark: I don't know what kind of research Mr. Herbert did
regarding Vegas. If he did none does that mean that the
exploitation of Women in Las Vegas does not go on? I don't care
if Mr. Herbert is "Yellow" - I've never been to L.V. yet I've no
doubt the sex trade is alive and well there, as it is in New
York City - that is the real issue. Now, Mark: It's quite
possible for a person to live in NYC for 100 years and claim to
have never seen a drug dealer, gang-banger, prostitute or a
hungry/sick/homeless child. I wouldn't doubt that person's
veracity just there powers of perception. Now, I love NY (BKLYN!)but
I'm not in denial. If a writer hasn't done his research yet
writes about the tens of thousands of sick people that are here
I'm not down on attacking the writer. Because I recognize - NY
is what it is - "Good" and "Bad". Just like Las Vegas. Whether
you notice the sickness or not depends on your level of
consciousness. So, focus on the messenger if you want to. Me, I
think there is a lot of "good" in L.V. AND, a lot of "Bad".
At
6:29 PM ,
GeoTrix said...
As for me, my
favorite part is, "The legions of Asian women in the massage
parlors and escort services did not come flocking to Vegas from
suburban U.S.A." !!! I agree with Megan that the author lumps
too much into the category of "sex work." He doesn't mention
that a lot of the sex ads promise a payoff that never comes. I
think that the tease of sex is often presented as a way to bilk
more money out of the tourists. Sure, the sex workers are out
there, but I think many of his "tens of thousands" are employed
at making people THINK they're going to get sex, when in
reality, they are not.
http://www.meganedw
ards.com/ blog/2007/ 09/city-as- predator. html
Vegas the
epicenter of North American prostitution?
Sep 5, 2007
05:50 PM PDT
Prostitution is
illegal in Las Vegas, but a new book says Las Vegas is a magnet
for human trafficking for prostitution.
The book,
released Wednesday, says women and children are brought here
from other states, as well as, from all over the world for legal
and illegal prostitution.
"Women are moved
for sale to buyers in Las Vegas."
Dr. Melissa
Farley says Las Vegas is the epicenter of North American
prostitution and human trafficking. Farley spent two years
researching and writing her new book: Prostitution and
Trafficking in Nevada: Making the Connections.
She says her
research dispels myths that legalizing prostitution decreases
organized crime, rape rates, sex trafficking, or disease. And
she doesn't see a difference between legal or illegal
prostitution.
"Legal
prostitution does not protect women from the violence, the
verbal abuse, physical injury or diseases, such as HIV, that
occur in illegal prostitution," Dr. Farley says.
"People want to
limit to thinking that strip dancing is not prostitution, yes it
is, most of the women are being forced to do things, they're not
there because they're great dancers, they're there to provide a
service in the backroom," says Olivia Howard who knows about the
grim reality of selling her body.
Howard was a
heroin addict and a prostitute for 19 years. "I was in
prostitution from the whole gamut from strip dancing, escort
service, massage parlors to street prostitution."Howard now
helps women in Chicago get out of prostitution.
Both Farley and
Howard say the buying, selling, and trading of women for sex is
what makes prostitution a human rights violation. "It's no
different if it's legal or illegal prostitution, women are being
abused and victimized and no one has the right to sell another
human being," Howard said.
Dr. Farley says
more money needs to be spent on services to help women get out
of prostitution, including more drug and alcohol treatment
programs specifically for prostitutes, as well as tougher laws
against men who pay for sex.
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7032570
Former
Prostitutes Wage War Against Prostitution
Sep 5, 2007
09:49 PM PDT
Edward Lawrence,
Reporter
A new non-profit
group, made up of former prostitutes, is going after the legal
and illegal prostitution industry in Nevada.
The group,
Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking, is headed up by former
Nye County Commissioner Candice Trummell, who says a brothel
owner tried to bribe her. Another member of the group, Kathleen
Mitchell, was a prostitute for 21 years.
"I left that
business with nothing but rage and anger. I could have hurt
someone at the drop of a hat. I ended up going to jail,"
Mitchell said.
Mitchell was
arrested in Las Vegas and decided to call it quits. She quickly
found out that there are few services for prostitutes who want
to leave their lifestyle behind.
Although
prostitution is not legal in Clark County, that doesn't stop it
from happening. According to a recently released report by the
U.S. State Department, there is nine times more illegal
prostitution in Nevada than where prostitution is legal in the
state. It also says 90-percent of prostitution in the state is
happening in Las Vegas whether it's in illegal brothels
or private homes.
According to
Melissa Farley who has written a book based on the report says
she found that there's $24 million worth of advertising in Las
Vegas where prostitution is illegal. In addition, the local
phone book has 173 pages of advertising for the sex industry
alone.
"There is a lot
of prostitution in Las Vegas because there is a lot of
advertising for prostitution in Las Vegas."
Farley says the
report estimated that the sex industry in Las Vegas generates
between $1 billion and $6 billion a year.
Last August,
prostitutes were bussed in from all over the United States and
seen parading down West Tropicana. The U.S. State Department
report shows that they have quotas amounting to more than 1,800
customers a year. That money gets split between taxi drivers,
pimps and bell hops at casinos, leaving very little for the
prostitutes.
Farley's book,
Prostitution and Trafficking in Nevada: Making
the Connections, is being used as a launching pad for the
coalition's efforts raise awareness about prostitution in
Nevada. What they would really like to see is some help for
prostitutes who want to get out of the business. They would also
like tougher penalties against people who pay for prostitutes.
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7029088&nav=menu102_9_2_3
Prostitution in
Nevada Panel Discussion Held at UNLV
Sep 6, 2007
09:41 PM PDT
Edward Lawrence,
Reporter
Legalizing
prostitution in Nevada has now become a national debate.
Thursday
afternoon, former prostitutes, UNLV professors and other
interested parties held panel discussions about the sex industry
at the UNLV campus.
The UNLV
professor holding the discussion invited Las Vegas Metro Sheriff
Doug Gillespie. He told some of his officers to attend the
discussion.
"I don't think
the convention goers who are going to the big casinos are being
arrested for buying women," said Melissa Farley, author of
Prostitution and Trafficking in Nevada: Making the Connections.
Farley
researched prostitution for the past few years before writing
her book. She and a group of former prostitutes contend
that police officers look the other way in Las Vegas.
Metro's vice
unit says that's not true, and they will be working casinos this
weekend because of the MTV Video Music Awards.
The former
prostitutes and Farley belong to the new non-profit group called
The Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking.
The police
officers who conduct the sting operations are listening to their
comments.
The group, who
is opposed to legal and illegal prostitution, has sparked debate
on the controversial issue. Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman says
he does not oppose legal prostitution, but says the city will
not push for it.
"My constituents
are not ready for it," he said. "They are always ready to have a
good discussion because they are smart people, but they are not
ready to legalize prostitution because they have moral
objections."
But he did say
having a sort of red light district for the legal sex industry
in Las Vegas may be a way to keep from having children see
revealing advertising that can currently be found all over the
valley.
"I often said
that maybe we should have a red light district. A zone where
people who didn't want to see this kind of nonsense, they don't
have to see it," Goodman said.
The mayor says
if women are not forced into prostitution they should be allowed
to make their own choices.
The former
prostitutes say even legal brothels victimize women. They say
selling your body like that takes away your soul and causes
physical problems.
The non-profit
plans to get aggressive in banning all prostitution in Nevada.
A new book about
the sex trade in Las Vegas says our city have more
advertisements for illegal prostitution than any other major
city.
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/story.asp?s=7038035
Outlaw
industry, ex-prostitutes say
Sep. 06, 2007
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal
Researcher spotlights human trafficking
By LYNNETTE CURTIS
REVIEW-JOURNAL
Kathleen
Mitchell worked as a prostitute for more than two decades before
her pimp was finally sent to jail.
"I wasn't a drug
addict; I was addicted to a man," Mitchell, now 64, said.
"That's the worst drug there is."
Mitchell, who
often saw her boyfriend pimp beat up other prostitutes, escaped
prostitution 18 years ago. But its effects are lasting.
"If I have a
relationship, it's probably going to be a bad one," she said.
Her story was
one of several shared by former prostitutes Wednesday morning at
a Sawyer Building news conference to announce the release of
researcher Melissa Farley's book, "Prostitution & Trafficking in
Nevada: Making the Connections," published by the San
Francisco-based nonprofit Prostitution Research and Education
The event also
served as the introduction of a new local anti-trafficking
organization, Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking.
The women joined
Farley, former Nye County Commissioner Candice Trummell and
Assemblyman Bob Beers, R-Henderson, in attacking prostitution in
all its forms and calling for it to be outlawed in all of
Nevada, not just in certain counties such as Clark and Washoe.
"Prostitution is
not work," said Farley, a psychologist who has spent years
researching prostitution and its psychological effects. "Rather,
it's a human rights violation."
The group argued
that legal prostitution can be just as harmful to women as
illegal prostitution because both involve kinds of abuse and
cause long-lasting psychological damage.
"What happens in
legal brothels is sexual harassment, sexual exploitation and
sometimes rape," Farley said. "Despite the claims to the
contrary, legal prostitution does not protect women from the
violence, verbal abuse, physical injury or diseases such as HIV
that occur in illegal prostitution."
Brothel industry
lobbyist George Flint later attacked the idea that women who
work as legal prostitutes are abused.
"Anybody that
has an ounce of brain or intelligence has to know they (legal
and illegal prostitution) are two different things," he said.
"We don't traffic women. We don't hire trafficked women. We
don't work with pimps. We treat the girls with respect and
dignity and we take care of them."
Kate Hausbeck,
senior associate dean of UNLV's graduate college and an
associate professor of sociology, also differed with some of
Farley's conclusions.
Hausbeck said
she supports an adult woman's right to "choose how they want to
use their bodies in the marketplace."
"My goal is to
always protect the rights of women," she said. "We have to ask
the women involved and take their answers seriously."
But Farley said
prostitution is "not a freely made choice."
"When women say,
'I'm happy. I'm making money,' that's just the tiniest bit of
the surface," she said. "Under duress from legal and illegal
pimps, women hide their coerced status in prostitution. Many
people refuse to believe just how bad it is for women."
Hausbeck said
disbelieving women who say they are happy in prostitution is
"really condescending."
"It's frankly
dismissive of women as uninformed, silly children, which is
exactly the perspective we should have moved far beyond."
She said the
word "trafficking" is often misused to indicate anyone who is
involved in prostitution, instead of only those who are forced
into sex work against their wills.
If an adult "is
walked across the state line or a national border intending to
do sex work of their own free will, without any force, they are
making this decision, and to me that's very different," she
said.
But Farley and
others argue a clear link exists between legal and illegal
prostitution and sex trafficking.
"Sex trafficking
happens when men demand the right to buy women," Farley said.
Terri Miller,
director of the Anti-Trafficking League Against Slavery, which
formed last year within the Metropolitan Police Department, said
that Nevada is a ripe environment for human trafficking because
it is the only state that has legalized prostitution.
"I don't believe
all prostitution is sex trafficking, but I believe the majority
of women who are prostitutes have been the victim of sex
trafficking at some point in their lives."
Miller said each
time a prostitute engages in a sex act, "it is very much
victimizing."
"The reality is
that they are having to engage in a sex act with a complete
stranger as many times as 30 times a day. It is not a victimless
crime."
Those who want
to leave prostitution have a difficult time finding help,
especially in Nevada, Farley said.
"Most women in
prostitution want to escape it," she said. "In prostitution, the
conditions that make choice possible are absent. If we really
want to say it's a choice, women need a range of options."
Jody Williams, a
former prostitute and member of the Nevada Coalition Against Sex
Trafficking, agreed.
"When women quit
prostitution, they ... suffer from a broad range of physical and
emotional disorders," she said. "Women in prostitution suffer
from the same combat stress that Vietnam and combat vets do, but
they have fewer services than vets do."
Former
prostitutes "wind up on welfare, disability, public housing and
on the street," Williams said.
She joined
Farley and others in calling for harsher penalties against those
who hire prostitutes, instead of arresting the prostitutes
themselves.
Farley's book is
based on a U.S. State Department-sponsored study of prostitution
and trafficking in Nevada.
The U.S.
Department of Justice has recognized Las Vegas as one of 17
cities where human trafficking is a concern.
The book
includes interviews with and demographics of women working in
legal Nevada brothels. It explores the link between legal
brothels and psychological distress and disease, the trafficking
of legal and illegal prostitutes in Nevada, escort and strip
club prostitution in Las Vegas, advertising for prostitution and
barriers to escaping prostitution.
The Nevada
Coalition Against Sex Trafficking will work to educate people
about trafficking, identify services for victims and change
Nevada laws related to prostitution, said Trummell, the
organization's director.
"It is way past
time for Nevada to become the last state in the United States of
America to finally stand against all forms of slavery," Trummell
said. "It is time for Nevada to start adhering to the U.S.
government's own official and very strong stance against
legalized prostitution."
Attempts to
outlaw prostitution in all of Nevada have cropped up but have
not gotten far in the Legislature, which has shown a preference
for letting rural communities handle the issue themselves.
Beers said he
would support making prostitution illegal in all of Nevada.
A brothel owner,
he said, is "somebody who, when it gets down to the very
essence, is nothing more than a slave-owner."
Find this
article at:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/9612332.html
Let's talk
about prostitution
By
Steve Sebelius, City Life
September 6, 2007
Mayor Oscar
Goodman says we should be able to have a conversation about
legalizing prostitution in Las Vegas. We happen to agree. So
let's do it.
First, let us
make one observation: While we suspect Goodman's heart may be
inclined in the direction of legalized brothels in Sin City,
it's clear he's not going to put his money where his mouth is on
the issue. Goodman said at his regular news conference today
that Las Vegans have too many moral or religious objections to
prostitution to legalize the practice, which is legal in certain
counties in Nevada, including nearby Nye County. (In order to be
legalized in Las Vegas, the state Legislature would have to
approve it.)
"It's a
legitimate topic to be discussed," Goodman says, noting that
illegal prostitution is going on all around us every day. "To
pretend that it doesn't exist is to be an ostrich," he added.
OK, fine. We're
perfectly willing to admit that there's as much prostitution
going on inside high-class hotels on the Strip as there is on
Fremont Street. It's just that Fremont Street gets more police
attention, one of many myriad hypocrisies that attend this issue
in Las Vegas.
After going
through some of the benefits of legalized prostitution (we'll go
into more detail below), Goodman concluded "My constituents
aren't ready for it, though. … Rational people could conclude
that legalization is fine, except for the religious and moral
aspects."
OK, fine. We can
deal with that right now: If you have religious objections to
prostitution, don't visit prostitutes. Discourage your friends
and associates from visiting prostitutes, too, if you'd like.
Protest on the sidewalk out in front of a brothel, if you feel
very strongly about it. Ditto for those with non-religious moral
objections.
So, what's the
problem?
Our take on the
mayor's stance is this: He's right in saying the issue should be
discussed. But if he's already decided that religious and moral
objections are too great to allow for the legalization of
prostitution in town, why should we have a discussion about it?
It's a waste of time, unless that discussion is going to lead to
more education, more enlightenment and the possibility of
eventually legalizing brothels in Clark County.
And here's why
we think we should do that. (Call us a misogynist if you will;
we'll deal with that later.)
1.) Ending
exploitation. Anti-prostitution advocates are swift to note that
women — especially underage women — are often exploited by human
traffickers and sexual slave traders. Far from choosing to use
their bodies to make money, these women are exploited and used
by others for profit. But the reason is that prostitution is
illegal; if it were a legal, licensed and regulated business —
as it is in some other counties in Nevada — there would be far
less profit in sexual slavery. Moreover, violence against women
by pimps would be eliminated.
2.) Public
health and safety. Currently, if a man wants to use the services
of a prostitute, he cruises down to a stroll, pulls over,
negotiates a deal and trades money for a sex act. (This is what
we hear, you understand, and see on TV. With our incredible good
looks and sexy bald head, we've no need of prostitutes. Not that
we're condemning it or anything.)
In this process,
the customer risks catching a sexually transmitted disease,
getting robbed by either the prostitute or her pimp, being
extorted for even more cash, not to mention being arrested and
having his name and booking photo become a public record.
If prostitution
were legal, the sex workers at brothels would be regularly
tested by the state for STDs, and would be required to practice
safe sex. Customers would feel much more comfortable in legal,
regulate brothels, which would have special privileged licenses
granted by the state. License holders (similar to gambling
license holders) would have a built-in incentive to avoid any
kind of crime in their establishments, including drug use by sex
workers, lest they lose a lucrative license. And underage
prostitution, like underage gambling, would be virtually wiped
out.
3.) Tax revenue.
It's guaranteed that all the money changing hands between
illegal prostitutes and customers is untaxed revenue; licensing
brothels would eliminate that problem. Goodman said at his news
conference that he's had casino owners tell him that, if
prostitution were legalized, they'd build nice brothels. If you
gaze at some of the nicer strip clubs around town (which we
never do; we're off the market, ladies!) we totally believe
that's true.
4.) Hooker
"strolls." There would be no need for prostitutes to congregate
on street corners or in certain areas of town, dragging down
redevelopment efforts and property values. Business would be
conducted in legal, licensed establishments, the way gambling
and drinking is conducted now. How many illegal craps games or
moonshine operations did police have to investigate this year?
Not a lot, we'd guess, when you can legally gamble and drink
inside places built for those purposes.
5.) Proven track
record. Everything we've said up until now isn't just us popping
off, as usual. We have a real-life, American example of these
things at work, in Nevada's legal brothels. The model used there
could easily be expanded to other counties, with similar
results.
6.) Elimination
of a fiat crime. Ever notice that neither person involved in a
prostitution transaction calls the cops? That's because there's
no direct "victim" in this crime, save for the peace, dignity
and morals of the state. That's why cops have to do "stings" to
catch the perpetrators, who are consenting adults who've come to
a mutually agreeable business transaction. There's no real
victim here.
(Some will argue
that wives who are cheated on and families that disintegrate
because of prostitution are victims, and that's true in a moral
sense, if not a legal one. But by that standard, we should also
outlaw adultery, since it has the same effects.)
7.)
Philosophical consistency. If you say you're "pro-choice," you
have to mean more than just "in favor of abortion rights." You
have to mean that you believe a woman (or a man, for that
matter) should be able to do with her body what she wishes. If
that means being a homemaker and stay-at-home mom, fine. If that
means posing for Playboy, fine. So long as the choice is free
and not coerced, then being pro-choice means respecting the
choices that women make. Goodman said as much when he noted that
"I believe a woman has a right to choose."
So, what to make
then of New York Times columnist Bob Herbert's
column slamming Goodman and Las Vegas for mistreating women?
(Our hearty thanks to the Las Vegas Gleaner for posting the text
which is ordinarily available only to rich Times subscribers.)
"There is
probably no city in America where women are treated worse than
Las Vegas," Herbert begins. "The tone of systematic,
institutionalized degradation is set by the mayor, Oscar
Goodman, who told me in an interview that the city would reap
'tremendous' benefits if a series of 'magnificent brothels'
could be established to cater to johns from across the country
and around the world."
Now, we've had
our differences with Goodman, but not on this issue. Here, we
must ask: What degradation? Unless, of course, you believe that
all prostitution is de facto degrading to women. Some people
believe that. (We suspect that a bill to legalize the practice
in Nevada would not get the votes of several prominent female,
pro-choice, pro-women lawmakers for that very reason.)
The other side
of the coin may just as easily be argued: Prostitution, along
with stripping, posing for Playboy or other work in the sex
trade, is empowering to women, so long as the choice is truly
theirs. It's when the choice is not entirely voluntary that
demoralization sets in. As Goodman said at his news conference:
"If a woman is forced into it, psychologically or otherwise, it
would be degrading." But if not? Then why not?
It's true that
Las Vegas tends to objectify women, turning them into sex
objects. It's true that many men come here for cheap,
meaningless sex with anonymous strangers, knowing (or hoping)
that what happens here stays here. But that won't change with
the legalization of prostitution, and it won't change if
prostitution remains illegal. And we think it's simply wrong to
accuse Goodman of misogyny just because he thinks it might be
better if prostitution were legal.
Part of the
debate should have to do with the city's image, but we'd be
remiss if we didn't note that the city's advertising campaigns
virtually promise sex to every visitor, male or female.
Otherwise, why would anybody care if what happened here went
elsewhere? Would some visitors not come (or be banned by their
wives or girlfriends from coming) if prostitution were legal?
Perhaps. But a person inclined to cheat will find a partner and
a place to cheat, whether prostitution is legal or not.
Conversely, a faithful person wouldn't cheat even if lodged in a
legal brothel.
Now, we must say
we don't agree with the mayor's rhetorical excesses in the wake
of Herbert's column, such as threatening (in a
sidebar in today's Review-Journal) to break Herbert's head
with a baseball bat. NRS 170.060, in fact, provides for a
complaint and warrant of arrest to issue against "…any person
who has threated to commit an offense against the person or
property of another." While Goodman may argue, as outlined in
NRS 170.080 that there is "no just reason to fear the commission
of the offense," it's still not a good idea to go around
threatening people, especially if by "people" you mean, "New
York Times op-ed columnists with millions of readers."
In explanation,
Goodman could only offer "If I really meant it, I wouldn't have
said it," and added, "baseball bats aren't used on people's
heads, let's put it that way." We suppose that might be an
attempt at an apology, but we can't be sure.
Anyway, Goodman
has (had?) nothing to apologize for with respect to his views on
prostitution. It may seem wrong to Herbert, and to
anti-prostitution researcher Melissa Farley, who has a new book
examining the issue (in a bad way) in Las Vegas, whom Herbert
referred to in his piece. But that doesn't mean it is bad. It
just means there's another side to the discussion that Goodman
says should happen. To that end, we've ordered Farley's book,
and will examine that as well as talk to local researchers and
advocates for their views. We'll report back what we find.
Because if
nothing else, Goodman's right about one thing: This is worth
discussing seriously. Anybody else have a view to share?
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“Let's talk about prostitution”
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Approval
has our vote.
It would
also send a message to the corrupt cops and judges who
have been abusing the public for years, that we the
people have the say so.
So yes,
the soon the better. Anything to stick in their eye.
Prostitution is not a crime.
Written
by Mr P on
September 7, 2007 at 3:48 am
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Prostitution is tacitly legal in Vegas anyway. The only
section of the Yellow Pages thicker than that for
Attorneys is "Entertainers." Note those aggravating
mobile billboards crusing the strip and the countless
illegals handing out those silly fliers for bimbos
direct to your room. As long as all this is happening
and the big gamers are cool with it (you don't hear a
peep from them on this subject, do you?), then what's
all the fuss? (NOte: Metro busts more prostitutes on
downtown street corners and at storefront massage
parlors than they do on the Strip. What does that tell
you?) It's here, it's tolerated by those with money and
power, so Oscar, shut up already.
Written
by The Penguin on
September 7, 2007 at 8:29 am
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What
just a second there Steven. Are you really trying to
provide a forum for discussion about a hot button and
multi-faceted topic like legal prostitution? A
discussion that requires reason, thoughtfulness,
introspection, concession, and areas of gray? A
discussion that will incite both natural and coerced
bias? A discussion that will challenge the rationale for
ones religious, moral, and ethical standards?
Who do
you think we are, intellectuals?
I'll say
this; I think your case is well argued and thought out
but you are operating under a couple assumptions:
1.
"We're
perfectly willing to admit that there's as much
prostitution going on inside high-class hotels on the
Strip as there is on Fremont Street."
What
proof do you have that that the quantity of prostitution
(the quality is a completely different subject) is equal
in these two different geographical and social
circumstances? And why make that assumption; what does
it prove?
2.
Your
main contention is that legalizing prostitution will
eliminate, or greatly reduce, all harmful societal
effects associated with prostitution; e.g. abusive
pimps, sex slaves, STD’s, street corner soliciting, etc.
Again,
where is the proof? Nye county? I need a little more
assurance that the same societal conditions that may or
may not make that the case in rural Pahrump, would
translate into a major tourism based metropolitan like
Las Vegas.
I’m glad
that you “ordered Farley's book, and will examine that
as well as talk to local researchers and advocates for
their views.” And I look forward to your insights,
because as it stand right now I am not entirely
convinced that legalizing prostitution wouldn’t augment
the problems currently associated with prostitution
rather than do away with them. Which is the assumption I
am totally guilty of.
Written
by Pedro on
September 7, 2007 at 12:00 pm
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Steve,
Excellent report.. whether
a person is for or against
prostitution.. there's lots
of thoughts there.. for food.
Written
by
Sam Dehne on
September 7, 2007 at 2:03 pm
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And then
there's the REAL prostitution:
Prostitute:
"A person who sells services or moral integrity for low
and/or unworthy purposes."
Where the heck is the FBI?
Written
by
Sam Dehne on
September 8, 2007 at 11:56 am
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Steve –
I agree; it’s time for residents to consider the
legalization of prostitution in Clark County. Perhaps we
can find a way to regulate the industry to the benefit
of residents, sex workers, and sex patrons. Personally,
I’d prefer that the police spend their time working on
violent crime rather than monitoring sexual
transactions. Cheers to Mayor Goodman for bringing up a
subject considered taboo by other public figures. ~Amy
(married, mother of two)
Written
by Amy on
September 10, 2007 at 12:17 pm
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Mr.
Sebelius
I
appreciate your effort to get an intelligent discussion
going about legal prostitution. Unfortunately, most of
the points you make are common misconceptions about the
issue of legal prostitution and don't actually correlate
with the reality experienced by women in legal brothels.
To answer your inital points.
1.)
Ending exploitation.
The truth is that there is trafficking and abuse in
legal brothels. I asssume you will read about this in
Farley's book. The legal brothels in Nevada are a stain
on the state. Many brothels make women sign long term
contracts. You have to stay at least 14 days (sometimes
more.) If you "choose" to leave before that period, you
lose all the money you have made to date. The brothels
take at least half the money paid by johns, often more,
and then also charge the women for water and food (at
outrageous prices.) You are pressured to accept every
client, if you turn one down, you will be punished in
some way. If a john wants sex without a condom, you are
pressured to agree, which essentially means risking your
life so that a man can have a more pleasant experience.
Behind closed doors the johns can be very abusive, but
you are not allowed to stop once the transaction is in
progress and the panic buttons are a joke. You also have
to service the brothel owner whenever he is in the mood.
All of this sounds quite like exploitation to me.
2.)
Public health and safety.
As mentioned above, there IS sex without condoms, no
matter what the brothel owners tell you. HIV tests have
an incubation period. There can be a considerable amount
of time before a positive HIV status shows up on a
woman's test and she can have many partners in the
meantime. At an average of 5 johns a day can mean a load
of STD's are being passed around.
3.) Tax
revenue.
Making money off the sexual services of women is called
pandering and pimping. Are you really comfortable having
the state and the city be pimps? Have we really sunk
that low? Will we be tempted to loosen the health and
safety rules just a bit to make even more tax revenue?
Maybe if we mandate that women have to service at least
20 men a day we can really bump up the revenues. Perhaps
if we just tie the women down to the bed and have an
assembly line of johns, we can improve efficiency. The
whole idea of funding our schools off the sexual
exploitation of desperate women is frankly disgusting.
4.)
Hooker "strolls."
As you point out, extreme drug users and underage girls
would not be allowed (theoretically) which means they
will still be on the street. Legal prostitution does not
get rid of illegal prostitution. It has not done so in
Amsterdam or Australia where it has been tried. Legal
prostitution merely creates an atmosphere of women for
sale, and the legality of the transaction doesn't really
matter that much to the john.
5.)
Proven track record.
Legal prostitution does NOT work. Even the mayor of
Amsterdam has been working hard to get rid of it. It
creates a climate of abuse, exploitation, and
trafficking. You definitely need to do more research on
this.
6.)
Elimination of a fiat crime.
You clearly need to better understand what drives women
into prostitution. They don't call the cops, because it
does no good. There is a pullitzer prize out there for
the reporter who has the balls to investigate the story
about law enforcement involvement in prostitution in
Nevada. The Mayor himself admitted last week that john's
constantly get rolled (robbed) in Vegas hotel rooms when
they call in escorts. Can you think of why the johns
might not want to report the crime? Hmmm. Police reports
are public records and don't necessarily "stay in
Vegas".
7.)
Philosophical consistency.
Choice requires options. Most women in prostitution are
completely out of options. And once you start, you feel
as if you are scarred for life and can never get out. It
is a nasty catch 22. There are very few girls with trust
funds who choose to work in the legal brothels of
Nevada!
If you
want a philosophical consistency, check out the law in
Sweeden. They have decided that women are full and
complete human beings with a right to food, shelter, and
dignity. They give women options other than prostitution
which means women can REALLY make a choice. They arrest
johns and pimps because buying and selling human beings
is a human rights violation. And they have managed to
eliminate 85% of the trafficking in the country and
create a better quality of life for everyone.
In
conclusion, Nevada is a fabulous state full of all kinds
of natural wonders. Las Vegas is a tremendous city with
great attractions and fun to be had. Vegas can be a much
better, and world class city, by getting rid of the sad
and seedy sex trade. This current sex industry is only
possible if you keep feeding more and more and younger
and younger girls into the pipeline to be used up and
spit out. A great city doesn't NEED to act like a pimp.
Thanks
for reading. I look forward to more of your thoughts on
this issue.
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by Jason on
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My name
is Jody and I wrote two of the chapters in Melissa's
book based on my own experiences in the sex industry. I
appreciate your admitting you have never seen a
prostitute yourself - because one thing is clear - you
don't know anything about this issue. To say that
prostitution is a "victimless crime" is the same as
saying that smokers are also committing a "victimless
crime" when they light up a cigarette. However, with
studies showing that 2nd hand smoke can actually be more
harmful than 1st hand smoke - I think there are others
who might argue that the person lighting up next to them
in a bar is actually harming them. The tobacco companies
used to cry the same cry - that smoking was a
"victimless" vice and it wasn't addictive and they
didn't add any chemicals into the cigs to make them more
addictive. Research has given the public the truth so
they can now make an educated decision. And lobbists
have now made it so I can eat out in public and have a
job without having my lungs fall out by the time I'm 50
because of 2nd hand smoke. This is the kind of research
that Melissa is trying to deliver to Vegas - but it
seems everyone wants to jump on the bash band wagon when
by the Mayor's admittance and your own - YOU HAVEN'T
EVEN READ THE BOOK YET. Human trafficking exists in
areas where there are legal brothels. Human trafficking
also exists inside the legal brothels. As for the HIV
testing of the prostitutes in a legal brothel - you are
taking the johns' side of this issue. Not realizing that
the johns enter the brothel without any drug testing,
weapons checks, HIV testing, or any health checks for
things like TB, hepatitus, HPV, herpes, etc. So they are
not safe for the women who staff these places. And if
you think the women are safer in the legal brothels -
again you don't know any obviously because I just got
told by a reporter from the Pahrump newspaper that a
girl recently got shot in the leg by an irate john. You
probably also don't know that some working girls have
reported that management disconnects the panic buttons
in the rooms. I object to the attack that a "rational"
person would not object to legalization - that only an
irrational person would object on moral or religious
grounds. I happen to be a very rational person - in fact
I graduated high school to enter college by the time I
was 16 years old. And my objections to illegal and legal
prostitution have NOTHING to do with morality or
religion either. To attack a person when you don't know
anything about the message they are delivering - well to
me that's just plain irrational. Next time - how about
talking to someone who knows the subject first hand or
try reading the book first before spouting off. What's
the saying - open your mouth and prove to everyone
you're an idiot . . . As far as I'm concerned that's
what you've just done here.
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Las Vegas mayor
threatens to murder N.Y. Times columnist after anti-sex-trade
column
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Remember the
scene in the movie "The Untouchables" where Al Capone, as played
by Robert DeNiro, brutally murders a lackey with a baseball bat
in order to prove a point?
For
Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman, the scene was obviously how
he views the real world.
"I have no use for him. I'll take a baseball bat and break his
head if he ever comes here,"
Goodman said of New York Times columnist Bob Herbert, after
Herbert's column "City as Predator."
The point the mayor wanted to prove? That if some N.Y. columnist
wanted to shine a light on the sex trade and prostitution
business of Las Vegas, he'd murder them with a baseball bat.
But the
sex trade and prostitution business of Las Vegas desperately
needs a light shined on it, and Herbert did a fine job of doing
just that.
"City as Predator"
There is probably no city in America where women are treated
worse than in Las Vegas.
The tone of systematic, institutionalized degradation is set by
the mayor, Oscar Goodman, who told me in an interview that the
city would reap "tremendous" benefits if a series of
"magnificent brothels" could be established to cater to johns
from across the country and around the world.
"I've said there should be the beginning of a discussion of
that," said Mr. Goodman, a former defense lawyer for mobsters
who unabashedly describes his city as an adult playground where
"anything goes — as long as you don’t go over the line."
Most of the lines in Vegas have long since been erased. It is
without a doubt, as the psychologist and researcher Melissa
Farley, says, “the epicenter of North American prostitution and
sex trafficking.”
Make no mistake
about it, Goodman is a mobbed-up thug. Take a look at
Inside Vegas at AmericanMafia.com for any further proof you
need. There,
former Las Vegas Councilman Steve Miller has a seemingly
endless amount of stories highlighting the Vegas-Mob connection,
and Goodman's secure place in it.
Think about it, what major American city would have a mayor that
defends - with threats of violence - a system that has created
this:
Start with the
fact that so many of those who are pulled into the trade are so
young — early-20s, late-teens and younger. Child prostitutes by
the hundreds pass through the Family Division courtroom of Judge
William Voy, who views the hapless, vulnerable girls as victims
and tries to help them. The girls he sees are as young as 12,
with the average age being 14.
He told me about a 14-year-old who was seven months pregnant by
her pimp. She was suffering from a sexually transmitted disease,
had a drug problem, was undernourished and still craved a
relationship with the pimp. "These cases will tear your heart
out," the judge said.
Does the Sin
City catchphrase of "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" still
sound like an invitation to harmless decadence?
There are those fighting to bring Las Vegas into civilized
times, but with mafia wannabes like Goodman holding sway, it is
by no means an easy battle. Still, those like Miller - long a
thorn in the side of the Vegas political establishment - former
prostitutes and others are trying to clean up what is now a
despicable mess.
"Researcher spotlights human trafficking"
Kathleen Mitchell worked as a prostitute for more than two
decades before her pimp was finally sent to jail.
"I wasn't a drug addict; I was addicted to a man," Mitchell, now
64, said. "That's the worst drug there is."
Mitchell, who often saw her boyfriend pimp beat up other
prostitutes, escaped prostitution 18 years ago. But its effects
are lasting.
"If I have a relationship, it's probably going to be a bad one,"
she said.
Her story was one of several shared by former prostitutes
Wednesday morning at a Sawyer Building news conference to
announce the release of researcher Melissa Farley's book,
"Prostitution & Trafficking in Nevada: Making the Connections,"
published by the
San Francisco-based nonprofit Prostitution Research and
Education.
The event also served as the introduction of a new local
anti-trafficking organization, Nevada Coalition Against Sex
Trafficking.
According to
Miller: What effect does Nevada 's prostitution culture have on
all women in the state? A Nevada rape crisis counselor
explained, "Men think they can get away with rape here."
According to an FBI Uniform Crime report, women are 3 times as
likely to be raped in Las Vegas as they are in New York City.
The reputation of Las Vegas as a city where anything goes is
legendary, and generally looked at with a wink. But it is an
American city. An American city where women are treated as
property, and where the sex-trade business is booming. And a
city where the Mayor thinks he can threaten to murder those who
question any of it.
And the simple fact is Herbert's words are absolutely true:
"There is probably no city in America where women are treated
worse than in Las Vegas."
For more information:
The Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking
Prostitution Research & Education
--WKW
Comments (35)
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Wow.
That's what I like to see in an elected official -
threats of violence and the celebration of
prostitution.
Betsy | 09.06.07 - 1:47 pm |
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I
was very pleased to read that editorial. I've often
heard the defense of prostitution that the women
enter into it willfully. But what isn't mentioned is
how difficult it is to get out, the disease factor,
and the fact that the economy of certain places
literally gives those women no choice.
And anyway: Las Vegas is garish, geographically
undesirable, and filled with coked-up frat boys, not
to mention the nasty sex trade. Why do people love
it so much?
Tart | 09.06.07 - 1:52 pm |
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If
you can find it, I also recommend the documentary
"Mob Law," which chronicles Mr. Goodman's career in
vegas.
Katherine | 09.06.07 - 1:58 pm |
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women
are 3 times as likely to be raped in Las Vegas as
they are in New York City
Fuuuuck.
Great post, Bill.
Why do people love it so much?
Tart, I was there but once, for a trade show I had
to attend for work, and I hated it so thoroughly I
could not wait to get the fuck out of there. The
only way of coping with its constant assault on all
my senses, not to mention every conceivable aspect
of my personal and political aesthetic, was to drink
myself into a stupor.
Melissa McEwan |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 2:02 pm |
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constant
assault on all my senses
Not to mention all the pressure- go to this club,
wear the right thing, VIP! VIP! Spend your money!
Consume! CONSUME!
Tart | 09.06.07 - 2:10 pm |
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The
only way of coping with its constant assault on all
my senses, not to mention every conceivable aspect
of my personal and political aesthetic, was to drink
myself into a stupor.
I think you found Tart's answer right there.
Mark me in the ant-Vegas camp. It's like an
amusement park for assholes. (Not that I'm big on
amusement parks, but at least with most of those, I
don't need to take a steel wool shower when I get
home.)
Zack | 09.06.07 - 2:20 pm |
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The
sex trade aspect of Vegas has always struck me as
revolting, but ... three times the probability of
rape? ?? !!!
I had no idea.
Trafficking??
You don't have messes like that in a civilized
country. Hell, you don't have them on a civilized
planet.
quixote |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 2:26 pm |
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After
I saw the amazing movie Leaving Las Vegas in high
school, I've never had any desire to see it in
person. That movie does a good job showing how
destructive it can be to both men and women, and it
does not in any way (IIRC) glorify prostitution. It
certainly humanizes it, and treats the female main
character as a fully human person (not just a
victim) but it also shows how dangerous and
destructive it can be.
Betsy | 09.06.07 - 2:32 pm |
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I
used to love Las Vegas, until I read this posting. I
had no idea. Mrs DBK and I have been there several
times. I like to gamble and she likes the shows.
Now, well, if I want to gamble I'll go to Atlantic
City or elsewhere and there are plenty of shows in
New Jersey and New York. I'm sorry to hear this
stuff, because I did enjoy Vegas and the hotels and
so on, but I cannot continue to put money into a
place where women are treated like that and the top
public official is an out and out thug.
DBK |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 2:40 pm |
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Why
do people love it so much?
I suspect they don't love it. It feeds people's
addictions. Its a very self-destructive place ...
and has a very negative vibe ... maaan. I once had a
cab driver there tell me that Vegas was like a roach
motel ... people check in ... but they don't check
out.
Nik.E.Poo | 09.06.07 - 2:43 pm |
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I've
been to Vegas once, and it bored me silly. I just
can't get into gambling, and that was pretty much
the only activity there.
Wally Whateley |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 3:36 pm |
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(Stupid
Wally, hitting the Publish button too early)
I've been to Vegas once, and it bored me silly. I
just can't get into gambling, and that was pretty
much the only activity there.
This is just one more reason to make me glad I don't
enjoy going there. I always figured the city was
still Mob-controlled, but having a crazy Mob guy in
charge of the city seems like a town I'd prefer to
avoid...
Wally Whateley |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 3:39 pm |
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So
I guess someone never noticed that there were shows
(tons of them), golf courses, sporting events,
lounge acts, comedians, and so on in Vegas. There
was nothing but gambling to do there. It just bored
someone silly.
I like a museum as much as anyone, but I also like a
variety of activities. I was never bored in Las
Vegas. As a foody, I found myself in some great
restaurants. Mrs DBK and I actually haven't done a
lot of gambling when we were in Vegas. There was too
much else to do. You can see circus acts at Circus
Circus. You can go on amusement rides at New York
New York and that other one, whatever it's called,
the one with the ride where they drop you a million
miles an hour at the top of that space needle
thingy. Can't remember the name of it. There are
usually several magicians doing shows in town, like
Lance Burton (I liked him, but wasn't that impressed
by him). There was the arcade at Treasure Island,
too. Mrs DBK and I enjoyed playing the arcade games
there like the little kids we are. We saw the Royal
Lippezaner stallions perform at Excalibur. We saw
Cirque d'Soleil there, too, also at Treasure Island,
performing Mystere (that was our first Cirque
d'Soleil show). I enjoyed looking at the giant fish
tank behind the reception desk at the Mirage, and we
also took the dolphin tour at the Mirage (they have
a big dolphin research center there).
So, no, I don't quite get how someone could say they
were bored by Vegas. But again, I am pretty
thoroughly disgusted by mistreatment of women and
Nevada's role in it.
DBK |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 3:57 pm |
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While
the Mayor's comments are outrageous - comparing
possible government regulation against current
illegal actions is ridiculous.
Human trafficking and street walking is unrelated to
a possible regulated brothel industry. No matter how
terrible the conditions are, blaming the influx of
homeless and pimps on the mayor's hope to regulate
the industry is irresponsible.
The suffering would happen no matter who the mayor
was.
Crissa |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 4:05 pm |
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"women
are 3 times as likely to be raped in Las Vegas as
they are in New York City"
Damn skippy.
A friend of mine had his bachelor party in Vegas. At
a club one night, he wound up talking to three guys
who complained that they hadn't had any luck with
women during their stay. So, they brought roofies
with them that night, in order to "improve their
luck", i.e. commit rape.
His fiancee, who's a good friend of mine, had her
bachelorette party in Vegas two weeks later. He
called to check on her every single day.
Ginger |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 4:27 pm |
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Just
went there for the first time a few months ago. it
was an assault on the senses, especially after
visiting Death Valley and the Mojave Desert first.
I noticed as we walked back from the Cirque de
Soleil show at the MGM that there were people
passing out post cards for nudie shows, strip clubs
and escort services. They were even trying to shove
it in the hands of a guy walking hand in hand with
his girlfriend.
After reading Herbert's column, I think I might
avoid visiting again, even though it's a great
launching point for visiting various wonderful
national parks.
lou | 09.06.07 - 4:44 pm |
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I
think, DBK, it's a question of what constitutes
amusement for a person. Many people find strenuous
hiking followed by lying around on the beach both
masochistic and boring, but I can't imagine a more
perfect day. In Las Vegas, however, I'd be both
overstimulated and bored- quite a feat! But
possible, I assure you.
Tart | 09.06.07 - 4:58 pm |
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I
will say ... I f-ing loved the Mandalay Bay Shark
aquarium thingy. And as an architecture buff ... the
buildings are monumental and quite interesting.
Generally speaking though, I'd prefer a day at a spa
over just about any "destination".
Nik.E.Poo | 09.06.07 - 5:12 pm |
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So,
they brought roofies with them that night, in order
to "improve their luck", i.e. commit rape.
Did your friend call the police (I hope)?
Melissa McEwan |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 5:34 pm |
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oscar
goodman is a dick. steve wynn is the fucking devil.
they ruined a city i lived and worked out of for
fifteen years. i fucking loved the place.
it wasn't the mob that ruined vegas, it was soul
less corporate bastards in suits.
but, there's something to be said about being able
to walk through the bellagio's art museum in your
flip flops. . . think about that, looking at
picasso's and chagals in your flip flops.
i'm crass enough that i dug it.
minstrel |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 5:50 pm |
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I
have always hated Vegas. I have not been as an adult
of "gambling" age, and it is not likely that I will
ever go. When I was 11 I thought to myself, "This
place is too hot, and everything is a distraction
from itself." I don't feel like things have changed
much since then.
NameChanged |
Homepage | 09.06.07 - 6:54 pm |
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"Human
trafficking and street walking is unrelated to a
possible regulated brothel industry."
You're wrong. Human traffickers hide behind the
legal industry, that's one of the major problems
with legalization! For another example, Germany has
legal prostitution and horrifying trafficking stats.
The second problem is that it creates an atmosphere
of male entitlement, where "anything goes" up to
and, apparently, given this example, including rape.
Gayle | 09.06.07 - 7:09 pm |
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minstrel,
I knew the mob and corporate America worked hand in
hand in the city of Vegas. I wasn't aware they hit
the trifecta by including the politicians, too!
How naive I was.
Gayle | 09.06.07 - 7:14 pm |
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The
mayor of Las Vegas is a complete thug. Wonder how he
gets away with it.
Mamasquab | 09.06.07 - 7:43 pm |
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Vegas
could be a great city...the attractions rock! But
I'm not going to spend a dime there as long as this
guy is mayor. The citizens of Vegas need to recall
this thug!
joe | 09.07.07 - 1:54 am |
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"...soul
less corporate bastards in suits......"
Distinguished from the mob guys only by their less
accomplished tailors ...?
My last and only visit to Vegas was Summer
1965....an experience to be sure, one I've never
cared to repeat. The absolute high of the visit was
wandering into a lounge at the Sands and having
Keely Smith ask, "What would you like to hear?"
..."Just anything you want to sing..", I stammered.
I cannot recall what she sang; only that she was
wearing a fabulous perfume....
amish451 | 09.07.07 - 8:05 am |
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I
spent three days in Vegas for an academic conference
on spectacle. The conference was good, but I hated
Vegas. It manages to be both garish and desolate. My
partner, colleagues and I ended up playing air
hockey in the kiddie section of one of the crappier
hotels. Couldn't wait to get out of there.
JW | 09.07.07 - 12:23 pm |
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Thank
you SO MUCH for posting this! Really important
stuff, which I want to comment on a little more
thoroughly when I'm not in a mad dash to get my kid
from the bus stop. The harm engendered by organized
prostitution systems like those in Nevada just can't
be romanticized away with the typical "yay sex
work!" modality of feminism that is so prevalent on
these here 'nets.
Again, thank you.
Victoria Marinelli |
Homepage | 09.07.07 - 1:29 pm |
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@DBK:
I
used to love Las Vegas, until I read this posting. I
had no idea. Mrs DBK and I have been there several
times. I like to gamble and she likes the shows.
Now, well, if I want to gamble I'll go to Atlantic
City or elsewhere and there are plenty of shows in
New Jersey and New York
Oh dear. Perhaps you haven't heard about the recent
rash of serial murders of prostituted women in
Atlantic City. There's mob connections and
trafficking galore in those parts. (Though I don't
know that the city's mayor is quite as much of an
offensive fuckwad as is Las Vegas's, fwiw.)
Not trying to bum you out, just sayin'. My own
in-laws are constantly traveling both to Vegas and
Atlantic City and they manage to remain fairly
oblivious to the situation for trafficked women and
youth there, but I don't hold that against them.
Anyway, no judgment... I guess the point is we
really need to develop more options for women and
youth who want to leave the industry. It's fuckin'
brutal out there.
Victoria Marinelli |
Homepage | 09.07.07 - 2:17 pm |
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Well,
I have to play poker somewhere.
DBK |
Homepage | 09.07.07 - 2:38 pm |
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Obviously! 
Victoria Marinelli |
Homepage | 09.07.07 - 11:19 pm |
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Consenting Adults and a Conservative-Liberal-Libertarian
Split
Thursday,
September 06, 2007
The New York
Times ran two op-eds this past week with rather different views
about consensual sexual activity.
Sunday's piece by nonfiction author Laura M. MacDonald
summarized a 1970 dissertation by Laud Humphreys called "Tearoom
Trade: Impersonal Sex in Public Places." It criticizes the use
of law enforcement resources to arrest and prosecute men who
solicit other men for sex in public places, and is similar to
the argument made by
Aaron Belkin in the previous day's Washington Post.
The recurring weakness in such criticism is that it ignores the
genuine,
non-homophobic concern that underlies such police action.
After all, police have limited resources and must respond to
constituencies. If they waste resources in an area that most
citizens consider unimportant -- for example, arresting people
for adulterery and other fornication, which in some states
remains illegal -- they will be criticized for not spending them
on problems that people do care about, such as violent crime.
But citizens care about more than just direct crime against
themselves or their neighbors; they also care about living in an
orderly environment.
At least on this narrow issue, McArthur, Humphreys and Belkin
sound like libertarians. Libertarians tend to fall into the camp
of believing that police action against public solicitation of
sex, or even public sex itself, is improper because it is a
"victimless crime," and thus probably not ought be a crime at
all.
Conservatives, however, see Law as a handmaiden of Order. Even
if conservatives believed that there was no moral problem with
homosexual sex between strangers, they still would worry that
allowing public restrooms to become open grounds for finding and
servicing sexual partners would create a problem of Disorder.
Such men would be bringing a private activity into public space,
and the presence of solicitation and sex would increase the
probability of other ills: prostitution, the use of drugs that
lower inhibitions or heighten sensation, violence from
inevitable disagreements, etc. Moreover, such activity is an
unfair and selfish use of a public space. Two people keeping
their stall doors locked while they negotiate or engage in sex
are reducing the number of stalls available to those who are in
the bathroom for its intended purpose. That we cannot identify a
specific "victim," a person who has been significantly harm,
does not matter; society as a whole is harmed by Disorder.
The liberal perspective does feel a greater need for a specific
victim, but sets the bar for what constitutes a victim lower.
Where conservatives may see all the participating individuals in
the Tearoom Trade as necessarily consensual, and thus only the
large, diffuse group of non-participants as having been vaguely
harmed, liberals are more likely to question the genuineness of
the participants' consent.
This brings me to the second Times op-ed, columnist Bob
Herbert's diatribe against Las Vegas, which is titled "City
as Predator." ($elect) Women are the passive victims of this
predator, a passivity reflected in Herbert's verbs.
"There is probably no city in America where women are treated
worse than in Las Vegas."
"Vegas is a place where women and girls by the tens of thousands
are chewed up by the vast and astonishingly open sex trade."
"The report
explores what [mayor] Oscar Goodman doesn't appear to
understand: the horrendous toll that prostitution, legal or
illegal, takes on the women and girls involved. If you peel back
the thin, supposedly sexy veneer of the commercial sex trade,
you'll quickly see the rotten inside, where females are bought,
sold, raped, beaten, shamed and in many, many cases, physically
and emotionally wrecked."
"Start with the
fact that so many of those who are pulled into the trade are so
young — early-20s, late-teens and younger."
There's more, but you get the idea. Herbert doesn't try to argue
that sex work is a sin against God, nor does he make an argument
about its secondary effects in sowing general disorder to the
detriment of society. Instead, he stakes his position on the
claim that sex work harms the workers. His only example of a
damaged individual is from a Family Division judge:
He told me about
a 14-year-old who was seven months pregnant by her pimp. She was
suffering from a sexually transmitted disease, had a drug
problem, was undernourished and still craved a relationship with
the pimp. "These cases will tear your heart out," the judge
said.
Indeed they
will, but they also are cases that a) occur in cities that are
not contemplating the legalization of prostitution, and b) would
be prosecuted against johns even if Mayor Goodman did pass his
proposal, because sex with a 14-year-old would remain illegal.
Yet Herbert doesn't restrict his point to underage sex workers;
even adult sex workers, in his view, are victims. "What is not
widely understood is how coercive all aspects of the sex trade
are." He's also annoyingly imprecise, referring to "sex clubs"
with lapdances, when he most likely actually means strip clubs,
which are legal to some extent in almost every state and not
peculiar to Las Vegas. If the women are not victimized in a
fashion that the criminal law would recognize anyway --
statutory rape, sexual assault, battery -- Herbert still
declares them victims of economic exploitation: "Most of the
money they receive from johns goes to the pimps, the brothel
owners, the escort service managers and so forth. Strippers and
lap dancers have to pay for the right to dance in the clubs, and
the money they get in tips has to be shared with the club
owners, bartenders, bouncers, etc."
In all honesty, I probably would have agreed with Herbert's
column had he stuck to prostitution, because I am very doubtful
that legalizing brothels and pimping activity is a good idea.
However, the notion that strippers necessarily are victimized
because they have to pay for the right to dance in clubs and
have to share their tips with their employer and fellow
employees is slightly ludicrous. Waitstaff, particularly in
expensive restaurants, are paid below the minimum wage and
expected to share tips, yet I have not heard of Herbert's
wanting to ban waiting on tables. And at least in NYC, there's
probably some overlap between the women in high-end strip clubs
and those at fashionable bars and restaurants: struggling models
and actresses who use their attractiveness in order to pay the
bills. Certainly some of the drink-mixing and table-waiting
skills on offer at certain Manhattan establishments lend
credence to the theory that employees were hired for their
appearance and charm rather than their ability to get an order
right.
The average American probably doesn't fall entirely into any of
the three camps. In some situations, she will be loath to
prosecute apparently victimless crimes; in others she will be
willing to punish infractions that violate Order; in still
others she will be convinced that someone who supposedly
consented is actually being coerced. I identify predominately as
a liberal, yet I'm sympathetic to the conservative argument for
enforcing the law against public sex, because I value Order.
(Indeed, I think living in New York has increased my
appreciation for doing certain things only in certain designated
places; having witnessed someone urinating on a street corner
helps one imagine how unpleasant it might be to use a restroom
stall right after someone has had sex in it.)
Incidentally, does anyone have a theory as to why the editorials
like McArthur's and Belkin's -- i.e., sympathetic to the person
caught soliciting in a bathroom -- seem to have come out only in
response to the news of Sen. Craig's arrest, rather than earlier
when Flordia state representative Bob Allen had a similar
problem? Is it because Allen's "I'm afraid of the
Big Black Wolf" defense for his actions rendered him too
unsympathetic?
UPDATE: Sex advice columnist
Dan Savage takes a similar view that Sen. Craig is not being
unfairly persecuted in having been arrested for his toe-tapping
(emphasis added):
However, CASH,
as I'm sure you and others involved in the homosexual lifestyle
are aware, the kind of man that plays footsie in an airport
toilet fully intends to have sex in that same toilet, and a
public toilet is a public place -- and public sex is illegal for
gay people like you, CASH, and for straight people like me and
Senator Craig.
And while I would be the first to argue that most of the men
looking to get it on in toilets and other public sex
environments are discreet and don't bother anyone -- and I
argued just that on CNN last week—some are not discreet and some
do bother people. (I also argued that most of the men getting it
on in toilets are straight-identified, just like me and Senator
Craig.) There were complaints about that particular bathroom at
the Minneapolis airport, and the police did what the police are
supposed to do when there are complaints -- they responded.
posted by PG at
7:46 PM
http://expost.blogspot.com/2007/09/consenting-adults-and-conservative.html
Panel: Brothels
aid sex trafficking
TRUMMELL DESIRES
A BASIC CHANGE IN LAW
By MARK WAITE
Sep. 07, 2007
PVT
LAS VEGAS --
"Pretty Woman is only a movie. Ain't no Richard Gere running out
there trying to pick up your body," said Brenda Myers Powell, a
founding member of the Chicago Alliance Against Sexual
Exploitation.
Powell was one
of seven women describing the evils of prostitution, both legal
and illegal, during a press conference on a report about sex
trafficking and prostitution in Nevada Wednesday.
Former Nye
County Commissioner Candice Trummell, who heads a new group
called the Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking, was one of
the speakers.
She talked about
slavery and human rights violations involved in prostitution.
Trummell said
the three goals of her organization are to educate the public,
identify needed services for victims of prostitution and "affect
a fundamental change in Nevada's law concerning prostitution,
sex trafficking and related matters."
"It is way past
time for Nevada to be the last state in the United States of
America to finally stand against all forms of slavery," she
said. "It is time for Nevada to start hearings in the U.S.
government on a crucial and very strong stance against legalized
prostitution. The Nevada Coalition Against Sex Trafficking aims
to replace the validity of Nevada as the safe haven for modern
day slave traders with the legacy of Nevada having the most
effective and complete programs."
The panel
lobbied for state funding for support services for prostitutes
who want to leave the business and felony penalties against
their patrons as a way to crack down on illegal prostitution.
None of the speakers, when questioned, said they specifically
wanted to abolish legal prostitution in Nevada.
Nevada
Assemblyman Bob Beers, R-Las Vegas, said under his bill draft in
the 2009 session, "It will be illegal to force women into
prostitution in Nevada, that's what you have to look at.
"Now if you have
somebody who actually wants to engage in that as a lifestyle, I
believe we should have avenues for that, but it should also be
controlled," he said. "If there is the slightest hint of
coercion, then that has to be dealt with very severely."
The conference
chairwoman, clinical psychologist Melissa Farley, author and
executive director of the San Francisco-based organization
Prostitute Research and Education, released statistics of a
two-year report funded by the Trafficking in Persons Office of
the State Department.
"A key finding
on Nevada prostitution is first, most prostitution in Nevada is
illegal, about 90 percent," Farley said. "A second key finding
is, despite claims to the contrary, legal prostitution does not
protect women from the violence, verbal abuse, physical injury
or the diseases."
Farley charged
many women in the legal brothels are under intense emotional
stress. She said many prostitutes may say they're happy in the
business, but she added, "Under duress from legal and illegal
pimps, women hide their coerced status in prostitution."
Farley saved
most of her criticism for illegal prostitution in Las Vegas,
which she called, "the epicenter of North American trafficking
for prostitution" with girls coming from every major city on the
West Coast and other parts of America.
There's an
awareness of human rights violations in sex trafficking in
Nevada, but mainly for women who crossed an international
border, she said. Authorities should be concerned about women
who've been trafficked from Minneapolis as well as from Mexico,
Farley said.
"We interviewed
45 women in the legal brothels -- 81 percent of them wanted to
get out. Many of them were physically restrained, there was no
way for them to get out," Farley said at the conclusion of the
press conference. "Domestic violence shelters would be a great
place to send them, outreach advertising to any of the brothels,
'If you want to get out, Nye County is willing to help you.'"
Copies of the
Las Vegas yellow pages were prominent in front of the speakers.
Farley said there were 173 pages in the directory explicitly
advertising prostitution. Overall, Farley claimed prostitution
was a $6 billion per year operation in Clark County with $24
million spent on advertising.
Legal brothels
in Nye County are doing nothing to stop illegal prostitution in
Clark County, she said.
"Also, we have
an exchange of women from the legal brothels into illegal Las
Vegas prostitution and back again," Farley said.
Many Pahrump
residents commented that brothels have the advantage of keeping
illegal prostitutes off the streets when Nye County
commissioners decided against allowing a ballot question on the
issue in 2004.
Trummell said
she couldn't foresee prostitutes standing out on street corners
in Pahrump -- even less so in other small Nye County towns --
soliciting sex in the event prostitution were made illegal.
But Trummell
admitted if state legislators wanted to crack down on illegal
streetwalkers, "The logical thing would be to allow it
(prostitution) in places where you're going to have illegal
prostitution." She admitted that comment wouldn't be popular
with the panel.
Many prostitutes
are told lies by pimps about the money, but much of it crosses
hands to pimps as well as valets, taxi drivers, disc jockeys and
others, Farley said. Myers Powell said legal brothels as well
get 50 to 60 percent of a prostitutes earnings, and then the
employees also have to pay rent.
"Nevada's rape
rate is higher than the U.S. average and way higher than the
rape rate in California, New York and New Jersey. Why is this?
Legal prostitution creates an atmosphere in this state in which
women are not humans equal to them, are disrespected by men, and
which then sets the stage of increased violence against women,"
Farley said.
"I cringe when I
hear it said that prostitution is a victimless crime," said
Olivia Howard, another member of the Chicago Alliance Against
Sexual Exploitation. She said people have a popular myth about
"ladies of the night" who disappear in the daytime, unaware of
the harsh reality and horrendous abuse.
"Prostituted
women are no safer in indoor venues than they are on the street
corner, jumping from car to car," Howard said.
Myers Powell
said if an average prostitute has an average of five tricks per
day, that's over 1,800 customers per year. "Men are in and out
of her body, using her body like a toilet," she said.
At the end of
the press conference, she angrily shouted at the audience, "They
say, oh, c'est la vie, this is what they want to do. It's not
happening like that, ladies and gentlemen. I want to see you
turn 1,800 tricks a year, and over 10 years you might have 1
million sold, you could open up your own franchise."
Kathleen
Mitchell, an ex-prostitute who founded a support group for
prostitutes called Dignity, said, "Women are bought and sold on
an auction block in any city in any state of the United States
and also internationally. Sexual trafficking is one of the most
inhumane forms of human slavery that there is."
She said the
movie industry should stop glamorizing prostitution.
Ex-prostitute
Jody Williams, founder of Sex Workers Anonymous, compared the
promotion of prostitution with the way the tobacco companies
marketed cigarettes. "They're taking advantage of your ignorance
of the industry," she said.
Williams said
ex-prostitutes came to her organization suffering from a variety
of physical and emotional disorders. "Women in prostitution
suffer from the same combat stress that Vietnam and combat vets
do, but they have fewer services than vets do," she said.
The illegal
pimps are replaced by "the legal pimps" in the brothels,
Williams charged.
"The current law
in Nevada which allows legal prostitution and talks about
wanting them to use their earnings to generate tax dollars for
the state of Nevada actually makes the state of Nevada a third
pimp for these women," Williams said.
Find this
article at:
http://www.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/2007/Sep-07-Fri-2007/news/16519321.html
Prostitution
Friday, September 07, 2007
- posted by Jim
@
9:33 AM
The (imminent?) release of
a new book, Prostitution and Trafficking in Nevada, by
controversial anti-prostitution scholar
Melissa Farley, has occasioned lots of high-profile
commentary. New York Times columnist
Bob Herbert seems to wholeheartedly endorse the Farley approach,
seeing coercion throughout the sex industry. An
intemperate but effective rejoinder is provided by Mark
Kernes of
Adult Video News.com. Farley, who supports the Swedish
approach of making the purchase but not the sale of sex illegal,
can be viewed talking about her new book in a video (available
here) from a Las Vegas tv news program. The Guardian
provides
an article that is quite informative, focusing on Farley's
characterization of the legal brothels in Nevada.
I
support some forms of legal prostitution, and I
do not endorse the Swedish model. I believe that it is
important to separate coercive from non-coercive prostitution in
terms of appropriate public policy (as well as separating adult
from underage prostitution), while recognizing that coercion
resides along a continuum. Nevertheless, some of the issues
raised by Farley do not simply disappear through legalization --
they require active policy responses. First, I think that she is
right in pointing out that legalization of some forms of
prostitution in itself is not effective at undermining illegal
or informal prostitution. (This is unlike the situation with
alcohol, for instance, in the US, where the legal market,
despite specific taxation, comes close to wiping out the illegal
market.) Second, the conditions under which legal prostitution
takes place, such as the sort of extra-legal constraints on the
movement of prostitutes that are applied as informal conditions
of licensing, need to be addressed. Third, drug, alcohol, and
financial counseling, as well as ongoing efforts to ensure that
coercion is not being applied, should be part of a robust
regulatory regime. Fourth, protections for the privacy of
licensed prostitutes are required, in part to ease exit from the
sex industry, and in part to provide incentives for choosing the
formal market over the much more dangerous informal alternative.
I hope to return to this topic soon -- a promise or a threat?
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Is Las Vegas
really so bad?
Column saying
it's the city most degrading to women sparks varied reactions
September 08,
2007
By Abigail
Goldman, Las Vegas Sun
Las Vegas Sun
|
YES,
IT'S THE WORST
"There
is probably no city in the world where women are treated
worse than in Las Vegas."
New York
Times columnist, writing about prostitution and the
rampant marketing of sex in Sin City
NO, IT'S
NOT SO SIMPLE
"Just
because a woman works in the sex industry doesn't mean
she's victimized."
UNLV
sociologist, arguing that the idea that prostitution
degrades all women in Las Vegas is just wrong.
|
A Las Vegas
phone book, flipped to page 862, features an advertisement for a
"SMALL PETITE & VERY PRETTY" 18-year-old Korean girl who
promises "NO HAPPY, NO PAY."
The ad was
propped open before a panel of speakers to serve as a symbol of
all that is exploitative and degrading to women in Clark
County's "culture of prostitution." It was the centerpiece of
last week's news conference called by researcher Melissa Farley
to release her self-published study , "Prostitution and
Trafficking in Nevada: Making the Connections."
Farley told the
gathered media that prostitution creates an "atmosphere in the
state where women are not seen as equal to men."
New York Times
columnist Bob Herbert drew from Farley's study to conclude:
"There is probably no city in America where women are treated
worse than in Las Vegas."
Farley and
Herbert are the latest entries into the ongoing debate over
morality and civil liberty in Nevada.
For some Las
Vegans, sizing up the city by its sins - the strip clubs, the
explicit advertisements, the promise of girls direct to your
room, the ubiquitous illegal prostitution - is too simple.
UNLV sociologist
Barbara Brents said the notion that prostitution in Las Vegas
degrades all the women who live here is wrong.
"The whole idea
that just because prostitution exists here means that all women
are sexually powerless and victimized is ridiculous," Brents
said. "It's as if people are afraid of women's sexuality."
But UNLV
communication professor Erika Engstrom said Las Vegas' hyper-sexualized
environment - its advertising in particular - normalizes a
dangerous vision of a woman as no more than her body, as if a
cocktail waitress in heels and a low-cut leotard becomes her
cleavage.
Farley and
Herbert made much of the mobile billboards that roll up and down
the Strip depicting a half-dressed woman begging to come to your
room. Las Vegas residents are all too used to this cheap
marketing, Engstrom said, and that's disturbing.
"The very fact
that people think it's not a big deal tells you something," she
said.
Selling sex is
nothing new, but the line between what is and isn't acceptable
is always moving in Las Vegas. Sometimes, MGM Mirage spokesman
Alan Feldman said, the line is hard to identify.
"There are a lot
of things that we do very badly here when it comes to the images
of women," Feldman said. "But there are a lot of things that we
do well, like giving women really extraordinary opportunities in
the workplace, by which I don't mean strippers."
Strippers are a
delicate subject.
Herbert wrote ,
" Many of those girls are either prostitutes or one short step
away."
That's a
dangerous assumption, one that's out of date with feminists who
see empowerment in the sex industry, said Brents, who studies
prostitution in the state.
"Just because a
woman works in the sex industry doesn't mean she's victimized,"
she said. "There are women who don't feel victimized at all ,
but they have a stronger sense of their own sexuality," she
said.
That's the sort
of statement that makes Farley and other activists who see all
prostitution as exploitation cringe.
Dehumanizing
women is excused by the cliche that anything goes in Sin City,
Farley said, and that encourages sex traffickers to capitalize.
"Sex trafficking
happens where men demand to buy women and where there is a
context of impunity for buyers," she said. "It takes a village
to build a prostitute."
Family Court
Judge William Voy spends several hours a week reviewing the
cases of juvenile prostitutes who are caught in Las Vegas. He
told Herbert: "These cases will tear your heart out."
But he told the
Sun he doesn't think that Las Vegas alone is creating these
victims. Seventy percent of Voy's juvenile prostitution cases
involve minors who come from out of state, from cities where
they already worked as prostitutes. Voy noted that most
jurisdictions practice a "catch and release" policy when it
comes to child prostitutes.
"We're trying to
help these kids," he said. "We're trying to make a concerted
effort."
Terri Miller,
civilian director of Metro's Anti - Trafficking League Against
Slavery, said the shadow of the sex industry is cast on every
woman who walks the Strip.
"It sets up
women to be looked at in a dehumanizing way," Miller said. "Even
women who might be just dressed in club attire, cocktail attire,
are looked at askew."
Las Vegas, so
often marketed as a place to do anything, is what you make of
it.
"We build Las
Vegas on the concept of adult freedom," Las Vegas Convention and
Visitors Authority spokesman Vince Alberta said. "And that is
defined by each individual."
Herbert singled
out Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman for his notion that a legal
red light district of "magnificent brothels" could eliminate the
ills of illegal prostitution in the city.
At a news
conference Thursday, Goodman explained there was more to the
quote, that he couched his statement with the acknowledgement
that his constituents were not ready for legal prostitution in
Las Vegas. At least not yet.
"Smart people
shouldn't be ostriches," he said. "They should recognize that
prostitution takes place throughout the land."
Abigail Goldman
can be reached at 259-8806 or at
abigail.goldman@lasvegassun.com
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2007/sep/08/566640489.html
Are rampant
gambling, prostitution part of the image Las Vegans want to
create?
By Jon Ralston,
Sun Columnist
Published in the Sun on September 9, 2007
After a week of
talking about sex, we should not get too hot and bothered
debating whether Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman is a tiresome
buffoon or whether prostitution will be legalized. One question
is settled; the other is moot.
But a
discussion, maybe even an argument worth having, is what kind of
community we strive to be and whether we are content to tell a
tale of two cities. One is where Goodman, a Dickensian character
if ever there were one, sets the tone, a place where anything
that’s legal is just fine, where taste is optional, where no sin
is too sinful. The other is a wholly different venue, one where
parents are proud to raise their children, where culture,
sophistication and erudition are prized, where family values
refer to something other than mob mores.
Or, perhaps,
there is a third way, where these two places co-exist, uneasily
but peacefully, separately but equally. Sin City and Sun City,
Spearmint Rhino and the Springs Preserve, the mob museum and The
Meadows.
The valley’s
schizophrenia has grown more and more acute as the area has
sprawled, bringing with it not just metropolitan challenges —
buckling infrastructures of all kinds — but also big-city
trappings — high-quality medical, educational and recreational
facilities. The schizophrenia, though, isn’t just between the
Industrial Road strip club sleaze and the Summerlin or Green
Valley verdant beauty. Even within neighborhoods far from the
Strip or Glitter Gulch, residents are riven about what they want
the city to be.
As beautiful as
you may think the Green Valley Ranch or Red Rock might be as
resort complexes, they are gaming establishments. And some
people — myself among them — have argued for decades that once
casinos were allowed to migrate beyond downtown and Las Vegas
Boulevard South, any chance that Las Vegas could become a great,
soulful city instead of a caricatured, soulless one vanished.
It’s not that I
am anti-gaming — I’ve played a hand or hundred thousand of poker
— or that I buy into every cliche about the social ills of
gambling. But it is a different kind of business with a
different kind of effect on communities.
Consider how
this dovetails with the past week’s debate about sex for sale
and the harrowing stories of women working in legal brothels
told in Melissa Farley’s “Prostitution and Trafficking in
Nevada: Making the Connection.”
Whores are not
Jane Fonda in “Klute,” supremely in control and empowered by
their job, but more like the girls of “Deadwood,” sad-faced and
haggard. But, Goodman and libertarians argue, women have a right
to choose, as if most prostitutes choose a life on their backs
the way a woman chooses to have an abortion.
It is this same
right-to-choose, anything-goes view that creates a community
ethos that cannot be contained — even mobile billboards now sell
sex. There is no escape.
Just as — here’s
the connection — there is no escape from gaming, the industry
that fosters a Zeitgeist that cannot be seen as anything but
inhibiting for the city’s maturity. The gamers have shown a
ruthlessness that would make any brothel owner or pimp shudder.
They supposedly don’t condone prostitution, which flourishes
through strip clubs and outcall services — and in a casino or
two. But, as Jack Sheehan reported, if the opportunity arises
for them to go into the business, the gamers will leap at it.
Just as they leapt at opportunities in New Jersey, on Indian
reservations, and around the globe — in most cases, shortly
after fretting about the threat to their bottom lines and
stifling any talk of taxation.
The Stripcentric
gamers may ensure we don’t pay an income tax, but they also gave
us Gov. Jim Gibbons, who ensures no one will pay any taxes to
pay for roads, schools, health care and so on. Others have
culpability here, too, especially a business community that has
had a free ride, with many getting rich quickly and then pulling
up the drawbridge. But Las Vegas is inextricably linked with
gaming and all it implies, including the prospect for illicit
sex even as the industry itself has become schizophrenic,
catering to a more upscale clientele while relying on slot
players who look as sad and haggard as any exhausted hooker.
This is about
preying on human weakness, selling with sizzle something that
too often leaves you feeling empty, wondering if it was worth
the cost. Sounds like prostitution, but the same goes for the
industry that encourages this environment to exist.
That’s hardly
debatable. And that’s Las Vegas. If we let it be.
Jon Ralston
hosts the news discussion program “Face to Face With Jon
Ralston” on Las Vegas ONE and publishes the daily e-mail
newsletter “RalstonFlash.com.” His column for the Las Vegas Sun
appears Sunday, Wednesday and Friday. Ralston can be reached at
870-7997 or at ralston@vegas.com.
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Las Vegas Sun
Letter: Mayor's leadership is ahead of its time
September 09,
2007
It is
unfortunate that Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman, an all too rare
political leader who actually leads by expressing a vision for
positive change, is so unfairly attacked by your paper and
columnists Bob Herbert of the New York Times and Jon Ralston.
Your paper, and
Messrs. Ralston and Herbert, cite the detestable exploitation of
women, abuse of minors and human trafficking associated with the
sex trade in lambasting Mayor Goodman's proposal to have legal
brothels in Las Vegas.
Neither Mayor
Goodman nor any other advocate (or person open to the idea) of
legalizing the sex trade supports such atrocities. Yet it is
precisely because such conduct occurs, and is not going to be
stopped by the continued criminalization of the sex trade, that
Mayor Goodman's proposal is so worthy of consideration.
Taking the sex
trade out of the shadows, having it safely regulated, and having
law enforcement root out the exploitation of minors and human
trafficking, would do far more to champion and advance the
rights of women (and eliminate the pimps and predators who prey
on sex workers).
Taking issue
with the mayor's taste (his repeated public displays of
affection for gin, his appearances with showgirls, etc.) should
not distract from serious consideration of his most intelligent
proposal. His vision is like that of Nevada itself when it
acquired an almost pariah status by legalizing gambling in the
1930s, an activity now viewed as perfectly acceptable (and
legal) in almost every community in the United States.
Leon Greenberg,
Las Vegas
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/debate/2007/sep/09/566621735.html
Jeff Simpson on
the recent attention to the local sex trade
September 09,
2007
As often happens
in Las Vegas, the most interesting news story of the week
involved an outsider taking a shot at Sin City.
New York Times
columnist Bob Herbert sharply criticized Mayor Oscar Goodman for
suggesting that legalized brothels might be a good idea in Las
Vegas, which Herbert said set a tone of "systematic,
institutionalized degradation" of women.
Oscar being
Oscar, he swung back, threatening Herbert with a baseball bat
and calling him a clown.
TV news
broadcasts eagerly jumped into the fray, airing reports on the
subject of prostitution, a ratings bonanza fueled by a few
oft-repeated video loops of streetwalkers and interviews with
former prostitutes.
Although I
disagree with Goodman's tough talk, I think that his
philosophical and pragmatic support of legalized prostitution
makes sense, but I don't think that giant brothels are a good
idea.
Just as the rest
of the country does, we keep our heads in the sand in Las Vegas
when it comes to the pervasiveness of the sex business.
We really don't
pay much attention to our 10,000-plus streetwalkers, escorts,
massage-parlor workers and exotic dancers unless there is
violence at a strip club or a bust at a residential brothel or
massage parlor.
Or when strip
club kingpins use their abundance of cash to make politicians
dance.
The convention
and casino businesses make the city a natural host for strip
clubs and for prostitution.
It is ridiculous
to think that rigorous law enforcement would eliminate
prostitution in the city.
When the Clark
County sheriff took action 25 years ago to get rid of
streetwalkers on the Strip, Metro was largely able to accomplish
that goal - by effectively moving prostitutes inside the casinos
or into escort work.
The smartest
tack that Las Vegas and our law enforcement folks can take on
prostitution is the one that we already implicitly follow.
We should crack
down on the most egregious elements of the business: pimps and
those who coerce women into prostitution; underage prostitutes
and their pimps and customers; and streetwalkers.
Escorts and
discreet working girls plying their trade in casinos should be
the lowest law-enforcement priority, ignored unless they are
hurting the casino or tourism businesses in some way.
Although we
shouldn't discount the likelihood that some women are forced
into prostitution, we shouldn't ignore the reality that many
women choose the business.
In economic
terms, they make up the supply that meets the demand of their
customers, many of them conventioneers and tourists.
Financial and
psychological support should be available for women who wish to
transition out of the business.
Although many
other countries wink at prostitution or allow brothels to
operate openly, the Puritan streak in America runs deep.
The public
relations backlash that would accompany the establishment of the
"magnificant brothels" that Goodman talked about would be
powerful. The negative publicity could harm the tourism, gaming
and convention businesses, and that is something that we can't
afford.
In fact, the
brothels sprinkled around rural Nevada already cast our state in
a bad light - not the idea that there is prostitution, which
exists everywhere, but the fact that we are the only state in
the country to so openly house the oldest profession.
I don't think
Goodman should be criticized for his philosophical support of
legal brothels in Las Vegas. It is a legitimate position to take
on what I believe is a legitimate profession.
The time is not
yet ripe for Goodman's proposal, but I believe the time has come
to decriminalize discreet prostitution conducted behind closed
doors, crack down on underage prostitution and pimps, and close
down the brothels that Nevada allows outside of Clark and Washoe
counties.
Jeff Simpson is
business editor of the Las Vegas Sun and executive editor of its
sister publication In Business Las Vegas. He can be reached at
259-4083 or at simpson@lasvegassun.com.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/consumer/2007/sep/09/566665623.html
Another
irresponsible piece on sex work
Bob Herbert
Melissa Farley
moral panic
New York Times
sex
sex work
trafficking
Submitted by
Elizabeth on 9 September 2007 - 7:55am.
I'm trying to
decide what makes me maddest about Bob Herbert's recent op-ed
pieces about sex work in Las Vegas.
It might be his
use of a tug-on-your-heartstrings story and alarmist title in
today's piece, "Escape
from Las Vegas." In that piece he uses Amber, a 19 year old
with a disabled mother and an abusive and drug addicted step
father, who finds herself stripping in Las Vegas as
representative of all sex workers:
Amber's story is
far more typical than many Americans would like to acknowledge.
There are many thousands of Ambers across the country, naive
kids from dysfunctional homes who are thrown willy-nilly into
the adult, take-no-prisoners environment of the sex trade with
no preparation, no guidance and no support at all.
They are the prey in the predatory world of pimps, johns and
perverts that goes by the euphemism: adult entertainment. (This
is a TimesSelect piece which means it requires paid registration
for most readers, though I'm told that readers with a ".edu"
email address can sign up for TimesSelect for free.)
Herbert is often
a strong advocate of the kinds of social changes that would help
the poor and reduce the amount of injustice and inequality in
the United States. If he were writing about runaways who were
seduced or coerced into the drug trade and then exploited and
abused, he'd be calling for all kinds of social changes to help
support poor families, to help improve education in poor
neighborhoods, and to reform the juvenile justice system so that
the kids who get caught in it would be truly helped.
But as soon as
the exploitation becomes sexual Herbert's solution is no longer
to make sure that kids from disadvantaged neighborhoods or
troubled homes have the support the need not to end up on the
street, but instead seems to be to demonize an entire industry
many parts of which don't involve kids and are not more
exploitive than lots of other kinds of exploitive work. That
kind of irrational panic won't help address the needs of people
who are forced into sex work or the needs of people who choose
sex work from a list of better and worse options.
Or maybe I'm
angry because of his reliance on antipornography and
anti-sex-work researcher Melissa Farley, treating her as an
expert on the sex industry even though she shows little
understanding of its complexities. Melissa Farley
has compared Kink.com to Abu Ghraib,
has written that there is no such thing as safe, sane and
consensual BDSM, and since she believes that all pornography
represents abuse and prostitution she
recommends that nobody should keep or use any kind of
pornography, and that if a person is involved in a relationship
with a porn user that relationship should be ended.
Though she is
touted as an expert researcher and holds a Ph.D. as a clinical
psychologist, her positions are hardly backed up by scientific
evidence or reasoning.
Then again,
maybe I'm angry about the overgeneralizations and irresponsibly
inflammatory and unsupported statements he makes. For example,
from "City
as Predator," published on the Times op-ed page on September
4, 2007:
What is not
widely understood is how coercive all aspects of the sex trade
are. The average age of entry into prostitution is extremely
young. The prostitutes are ruthlessly controlled by pimps, club
owners and traffickers. (This is also a TimesSelect piece. )
Huge numbers of foreign women are trafficked into Vegas. The
legions of Asian women in the massage parlors and escort
services did not come flocking to Vegas from suburban U.S.A.
(Also from
the Sept. 4 "City as Predator" piece)
Phrases like
"all aspects," "extremely young," "huge numbers" and "legions of
Asian women" all keep readers from learning about the complexity
of the sex industry while keeping us in a state of moral panic
about it. That's not a good way to create a rational solution to
a problem.
And then there
are passages like this one:
The women are
exploited in every way. Most of the money they receive from
johns goes to the pimps, the brothel owners, the escort service
managers and so forth. Strippers and lap dancers have to pay for
the right to dance in the clubs, and the money they get in tips
has to be shared with the club owners, bartenders, bouncers,
etc. ("City as Predator")
Now, if Herbert
were writing about forced labor or exploitive working conditions
in any other industry he'd be calling, rightly, for reforms in
the industry. He wouldn't be reflexively linking that industry
to slavery and then calling for the whole industry to be
abolished. If Herbert were writing about the exploitation in
agricultural work he wouldn't suggest we stop farming. He'd call
for stronger enforcement of workers rights laws. But here he'd
prefer to say the work simply can't be done in conditions
reasonably free from exploitation.
Had he been
talking about any other kind of exploitive work I suspect he'd
also have been critical of the cuts in health care, education
and job opportunities that produce the kinds of choices with
which Amber was faced. But not here. No, because it's sex work
we don't have to criticize other policy. We just have to condemn
the sex industry.
It's true that
sex work is often exploitive and sometimes dangerous. Many kinds
of work are exploitive and dangerous. It's also true that within
the sex industry the jobs done by the poorest workers are
probably the most exploitive and most dangerous. That is also
true of many industries. And it's true that we should be
fighting exploitation and abuse. It just isn't true that to do
so we need to try to eliminate all sex work.
If we want to
help people like Amber, the young woman in Herbert's op-ed piece
today, we need to stop singling out the sex industry as a
monolithic evil and start treating it like an industry. We need
to organize workers, we need to fight for reasonable working
conditions and we need to be addressing issues of poverty and
unequal access to public goods like education and health care so
that people are not forced to make brutal choices in the first
place.
And if we're
serious about combatting trafficking we need to broaden our
focus on forced labor to include all the industries where it
occurs. (See
this piece by Debbie Nathan for a poignant reminder of
Trafficking Victims Protection Act often neglects those
trafficked for nonsexual purposes.)
Email
letters@nytimes.com to send a letter to the editor of the
New York Times. Confront the assumptions made by Herbert in
his pieces and challenge the use of "experts" like Melissa
Farley. Letters are most likely to be published if they keep to
about 150 words, are well written, have a clear position, and
directly refer to a recent Times article.
Click here for the Times's own advice on writing letters to
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COMMENTS:
Bugs
Submitted by
JanieBelle on 9 September 2007 - 7:24pm.
This stuff
really bugs me.
I'm about sick
to death of the assumption that sex is inherently
bad/evil/sinful, which is the obvious root of why sex work is
assumed to be inherently bad/evil/sinful.
Ever walked into
a McDonald's Mr. Herbert? Why are you not calling for the
abolition of fast food restaurants? Why not make sweeping
generalizations about the dazed seventeen year old cashiers who
dropped out of high school to support their children and
drug-addicted, abusive parents and boyfriends?
Oh, that's
right. Then there'd be no one to ring up your greasy half-cooked
burgers and fries. We couldn't have that, now could we?
I've had a piece
on trafficking on the back burner for some time now, hampered by
research sources. Unfortunately, every source I can find
automatically conflates trafficking with prostitution, without
ever making the proper case for a cause-effect relationship.
It's just assumed without merit, and every single source I've
looked at simply adds in statistics about sex work and then says
something like "see how bad trafficking is? Look at all the sex
workers!"
Some of them
even go to great lengths to denounce the movement to legalize
sex work, and accuse those who advocate it of being a causation
of trafficking, without ever considering that the two are
separate issues, or ever exploring the idea that if sex work
were legal, there'd be no reason for trafficking in people for
sex work.
It's all part
and parcel of the assumption that sex and sex work are
inherently bad/evil/sinful. That just pisses me off.
__________________________
Kisses,
JanieBelle
Dream a little dream of me.
Groups that don't conflate trafficking with prostitution
Submitted by
Elizabeth on 9 September 2007 - 8:05pm.
JanieBelle,
perhaps these can help you with your reserach:
GlobalRights.org is a global grass roots human rights
organization with a very smart approach to the issue of
trafficking. Start with
these documents. (You couldn't go wrong by first reading the
testimony of Ann Jordon, Director, Initiative Against
Trafficking in Persons, Global Rights before the House
Subcommittee on Border, Maritime and Global Counterterrorism
back in March.)
International Union of Sex Workers has a page on trafficking
too, and their policy statement puts the emphasis on stopping
the traffickers, not the sex workers.
Just two places
to start.
__________________________
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public space really matters!
Elizabeth
Thank you Elizabeth
Submitted by
JanieBelle on 10 September 2007 - 1:40pm.
I appreciate the
assist.
__________________________
Kisses,
JanieBelle
Legal prostitution doesn't work
Submitted by
Shelly (not verified) on 12 September 2007 - 12:41am.
If you don't get
the difference between hamburgers and humans, you may need to
take a little time out and think about it. Any time you are
selling women for sex to men, you will be dealing with crime and
violence. No matter how much you try to regulate it, the
transaction is inherently about a power imbalance. Those of you
who think you are "empowering" yourselves by selling time in
your vagina are just kidding yourselves. You are being used.
Period. Amsterdam and Germany are getting rid of LEGAL
prostitution because it INCREASES trafficking. Wherever
prostitution is legal, the illegal trade shows up to undercut
the prices and offer the extras (condom-free sex, children,
etc.) Buying and selling people is wrong. Johns and pimps should
go to jail until they figure that out. I will be very surprised
if this comment gets posted. ShellyB
Be Surprised
Submitted by
JanieBelle on 12 September 2007 - 12:51am.
The entire point
of this site is to discuss. It'd be kinda dumb to not allow...
y'know... discussion. __________________________
Kisses,
JanieBelle
Assertions
Submitted by
JanieBelle on 12 September 2007 - 1:10am.
Now, that aside,
I'd like to see some evidence for your assertions.
You said:
If you don't get
the difference between hamburgers and humans, you may need to
take a little time out and think about it.
If you're
comparing sex workers to hamburgers, I'd suggest you take your
own advice. I was comparing consenting adults exchanging a
service for cash to consenting adults exchanging a service for
cash. See how that works?
Any time you are
selling women for sex to men, you will be dealing with crime and
violence. No matter how much you try to regulate it, the
transaction is inherently about a power imbalance.
And this is
different from any other type of work, how? Selling people is
itself a crime. Providing a service in exchange for money
occurs millions or billions of times each day. Each time a
woman sells a man a hamburger, is that also inherently about a
power imbalance. Are you advocating that women refuse to do
business with men?
Those of you who
think you are "empowering" yourselves by selling time in your
vagina are just kidding yourselves.
Because you say
so?
You are being
used. Period.
Yes, and that's
why there's an exchange of money, dear. I'm also being used if
I wait a table or change the oil in a car. It's about
exchanging a service I'm happy to provide for money my customer
is happy to part with. Welcome to the world of jobs.
Amsterdam and Germany are getting rid of LEGAL prostitution because it INCREASES
trafficking.
I assume you
have a source for this statement? I'd like you to share that.
Wherever
prostitution is legal, the illegal trade shows up to undercut
the prices and offer the extras (condom-free sex, children,
etc.)
Ditto. Show me
the source.
Buying and
selling people is wrong.
I doubt you'd
get any disagreement from anyone here. Fortunately, we're not
talking about buying and selling people. You're conflating sex
work and trafficking.
Johns and pimps
should go to jail until they figure that out.
Well, I would
agree that if it's illegal to give, it should be illegal to
receive. I just don't agree that either should be illegal
between consenting adults, and you've given me no real reason to
change my mind so far.
I will be very surprised if this comment gets posted.
Well,
fortunately this isn't Fundy Central, Fox News, or Bob Jones
University. Interestingly, it's my understanding that we allow
disagreement, discussion, and the free exchange of ideas here.
It's sort of the point.
__________________________
Kisses,
JanieBelle
http://sexinthepublicsquare.org/node/379
Book exposes
harsh reality of Nevada prostitution
Published on
Taipei Times
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2007/09/10/2003378104
Julie Bindel
THE GUARDIAN,
LONDON
Monday, Sep 10, 2007, Page 9
There is only
one place in the US where brothels are legal, and that's Nevada
-- a state in which prostitution has been considered a necessary
service industry since the days when the place was populated
solely by prospecters. There are at least 20 legal brothels in
business now. Not so many, you might think, but these
state-sanctioned operations punch above their weight in public
relations (PR) terms.
Take HBO's hit
documentary series, Cathouse, which features the most famous of
the Nevadan brothels, the Moonlight Bunny Ranch. Tune in and
you'd be forgiven for thinking that all prostitutes in Nevada
are on to a good thing. The women speak coyly about loving their
work, their customers, their bosses.
"The series
sheds light not only on the numerous joys and challenges of
working at a legal brothel," says the HBO Web site, "but on the
therapeutic benefits that customers take with them after a stint
at the Ranch."
Given such great
PR, a new book -- Prostitution and Trafficking in Nevada: Making
the Connections -- makes interesting reading. During a two-year
investigation, the author, Melissa Farley, visited eight legal
brothels in Nevada, interviewing 45 women and a number of
brothel owners. Far from enjoying better conditions than those
who work illegally, the prostitutes she spoke to are often
subject to slave-like conditions.
Described as
"pussy penitentiaries" by one interviewee, the brothels tend to
be in the middle of nowhere, out of sight of ordinary Nevadans.
(Brothels are officially allowed only in counties with
populations of fewer than 400,000, so prostitution remains an
illegal -- though vast -- trade in conurbations such as Las
Vegas.) The brothel prostitutes often live in prison-like
conditions, locked in or forbidden to leave.
"The physical
appearance of these buildings is shocking," Farley said. "They
look like wide trailers with barbed wire around them -- little
jails."
The rooms all
have panic buttons, but many women told her that they had
experienced violent and sexual abuse from the customers and
pimps.
"I saw a grated
iron door in one brothel," Farley said. "The women's food was
shoved through the door's steel bars between the kitchen and the
brothel area. One pimp starved a woman he considered too fat.
She made a friend outside the brothel who would throw food over
the fence for her."
Another pimp
told Farley matter-of-factly that many of the women working for
him had histories of sexual abuse and mental ill-health.
"Most," he said,
"have been sexually abused as kids. Some are bipolar, some are
schizophrenic."
RIGHTS
Then there is
the fact that legal prostitutes seem to lose the rights ordinary
citizens enjoy. From 1987, prostitutes in Nevada have been
legally required to be tested once a week for sexually
transmitted diseases and monthly for HIV. Customers are not
required to be tested.
The women must
present their medical clearance to the police station and be
fingerprinted, even though such registration is detrimental: If
a woman is known to work as a prostitute, she may be refused
health insurance, face discrimination in housing or future
employment, or endure accusations of unfit motherhood. In
addition, there are countries that will not permit registered
prostitutes to settle, so their movement is severely restricted.
Those who
support the system claim that the regulations may help prevent
pimping, which they see as a worse form of exploitation to that
which occurs in brothels. According to Farley's research though,
most women in legal brothels have pimps outside anyway, be they
husbands or boyfriends. And, as Chong Kim, a survivor of
prostitution who has worked with Farley, said, some of the legal
brothel owners "are worse than any pimp. They abuse and imprison
women and are fully protected by the state."
The women are
expected to live in the brothels and to work 12-to 14-hour
shifts. Mary, a prostitute in a legal brothel for three years,
outlines the restrictions.
"You are not
allowed to have your own car," she said. "It's like [the pimp's]
own little police state."
When a customer
arrives, a bell rings, and the women immediately have to present
themselves in a line-up, so he can choose who to buy.
Sheriffs in some
counties of Nevada also enforce practices that are illegal. In
one city, for example, prostitutes are not allowed to leave the
brothel after 5pm, are not permitted in bars, and, if entering a
restaurant, must use a back door and be accompanied by a man.
So how did
Farley gain access to her interviewees? Those in control of the
women were confident that they would not be honest about the
conditions, she said.
"Pimps love to
brag, and I know how to listen," she said.
Although left
alone with the women during interviews, Farley noted that they
were all very nervous, constantly looking out for the brothel
owners.
Investigating
the sex industry -- even the legal part -- can be dangerous.
During one visit to a brothel, Farley asked the owner what the
women thought of their work.
"I was polite,"
she wrote in her book, "as he condescendingly explained what a
satisfying and lucrative business prostitution was for his
`ladies.' I tried to keep my facial muscles expressionless, but
I didn't succeed. He whipped a revolver out of his waistband,
aimed it at my head and said: `You don't know nothing about
Nevada prostitution, lady. You don't even know whether I will
kill you in the next five minutes.'"
Farley found
that the brothel owners typically pocket half of the women's
earnings. Additionally, the women must pay tips and other fees
to the staff of the brothel, as well as finders' fees to the cab
drivers who bring the customers. They are also expected to pay
for their own condoms, wet wipes and use of sheets and towels.
It is rare, the women told Farley, to refuse a customer.
One former
Nevada brothel worker wrote on a Web site: "After your airline
tickets, clothing, full-price drinks and other miscellaneous
fees you leave with little. To top it off, you are ... fined for
just about everything. Fall asleep on your 14-hour shift and get
US$100 fine, late for a line-up, US$100-US$500 in fines." (The
women generally negotiate directly with the men over the money;
what they get depends on the quality of the brothel. It can be
anything from US$50 for oral sex to US$1,000 for the night, but
that doesn't take account of the brothel's cut.)
SHOCKING
Farley found a "shocking" lack of services for women in
Nevada wishing to leave
prostitution.
"When
prostitution is considered a legal job instead of a human rights
violation," Farley said, "Why should the state offer services
for escape?"
More than 80
percent of those interviewed told Farley they wanted to leave
prostitution.
The effect of
all this on the women in the brothels is "negative and
profound," Farley said.
"Many were
suffering what I'd describe as the traumatic effects of ongoing
sexual assaults and those that had been in the brothels for some
time were institutionalized. That is, they were passive, timid,
compliant, and deeply resigned," she said.
"No one really
enjoys getting sold," said Angie, who Farley interviewed. "It's
like you sign a contract to be raped."
Meanwhile,
illegal brothels are on the increase in Nevada, as they are in
other parts of the world where brothels are legalized.
Nevada's illegal
prostitution industry is already nine times greater than the
state's legal brothels.
"Legalizing this
industry does not result in the closing down of illegal sex
establishments," Farley said, "it merely gives them further
permission to exist."
Farley found
evidence, for example, that the existence of state-sanctioned
brothels can have a direct effect on attitudes to women and
sexual violence. Her survey of 131 young men at the University
of Nevada found the majority viewed prostitution as normal,
assumed that it was not possible to rape a prostitute, and were
more likely than young men in other states to use women in both
legal and illegal prostitution.
The solution,
Farley believes, is to educate people about the realities of
legalized abuse of women.
"Once the people
of Nevada learn of [the prostitutes'] suffering and emotional
distress, and their lack of human rights, they, like me, will be
persuaded that legal prostitution is an institution that just
can't be fixed up or made a little better. It has to be
abolished," Farley said.
The prevailing
attitude in Nevada remains as it was a few centuries back though
-- that men have sexual "needs" that they have a right to
fulfil. Outside one of the legal brothels a sign reads: "He who
hesitates, masturbates."
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2007/09/10/2003378104
John Ralston
News Flash
Monday,
September 10, 2007
Email:
ralston@vegas.com
This dispatch prepared for GUY ROCHA
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A COUPLE OF
POLITICAL NUGGETS:
Nugget No. 1 –
In the wake of Melissa Farley's screed against prostitution,
which sparked New York Times columnist Bob Herbert to his
anti-Vegas crusade, another professor has provided me with some
research about Farley. Ronald Weitzer, a sociology professor at
George Washington, has extensively studied her work and those of
others he labels "abolitionist feminists."
Weitzer argues
in a couple of scholarly treatises that Farley and others treat
prostitution as a form of violence, exaggerate numbers to make
their case and have been embraced by the Bush Administration. He
claims they have "ideological blinders" that causes them to
portray prostitution as "evil and a human rights violation."
For another
point of view, his pieces are worth reading and I have posted
them here:
www.vegaspundit.typepad.com
As I said last
week, Farley is a polemicist and her political views, amplified
by Steve Miller's conspiracy theories, are not that interesting
or relevant. What is relevant is the picture she paints of life
in the rural brothels, portraits that are harrowing.
I guess Bob
Herbert didn't take Oscar's baseball bat threat too seriously
September 10,
2007
The recent
articles on the Nevada sex scene have given bloggers plenty to
post the last few days, so why not go with the flow; hopefully,
the attention will keep Oscar saying stupid things, his stock in
trade, giving bloggers continued blogisms...or is that blogasms.
New York Times, September 8, 2007
Escape From Las Vegas
By
Bob Herbert
Amber is 19
years old and on Sunday she caught a flight out of Las Vegas's
McCarran International Airport and went home to a small town in
Minnesota, not far from the Iowa border.
I'm rooting for
her. She's low on funds ("I've got my ticket, that's about all,"
she said), and she's at a crucial turning point in her life.
The question is
whether she will go off to college in Florida, and stick with
it, which she insists is what she wants to do, or whether she
will slip back into her life as a stripper and lap dancer, which
is so often the start of the descent into the hell of
prostitution.
"I hate the
dancing," she told me. "Sometimes I think I don't have a strong
enough mind for it, because of the way people treat me."
I met Amber in
Las Vegas last week. I was with Melissa Farley, a psychologist
and researcher who was asked by the head of the U.S. State
Department's anti-trafficking office to do a study of the sex
trade and its consequences in Nevada. (She published the
book-length study this week under the title,
"Prostitution and Trafficking in Nevada: Making the Connections.")
Amber's story is
far more typical than many Americans would like to acknowledge.
There are many thousands of Ambers across the country, naïve
kids from dysfunctional homes who are thrown willy-nilly into
the adult, take-no-prisoners environment of the sex trade with
no preparation, no guidance and no support at all.
They are the
prey in the predatory world of pimps, johns and perverts that
goes by the euphemism: adult entertainment.
Amber's parents
are divorced. Her mother, with whom she lives when she's in
Minnesota, is both physically and emotionally ill.
For awhile, she
said, she had a stepfather who physically abused both her and
her mother.
"He was on meth,"
Amber said. "He'd hit us, scream at my mother. We'd make dinner
and he'd go into a rage and throw away the whole dinner. So we'd
go without dinner that night."
Amber was both
shy and rebellious and began dancing at a strip club in
Minnesota on a dare. That was several months ago.
One afternoon a
wrestling coach from her high school came in while she was
dancing. "I was topless," she said, "and I just wanted to crawl
into a hole."
She saved enough
money to go to Vegas and tried out for a job there. "The manager
told me, 'You can't work for me. You're too big,' " she said.
"So I didn't eat for four days. All I had that whole time was
one bowl of cereal and some water. It was horrible. I lost 10
pounds and went back. He made me take off all my clothes and
dance for him. And then he said I was still too big. You have to
be practically anorexic to dance for him."
I asked why she
continued dancing even though she hated it. Her face took on the
puzzled look of a kid who had no good answer for not doing her
homework.
"I don't know,"
she said. "It's not very logical, is it?"
She got a job at
Sheri's Cabaret on South Highland Avenue, which trumpets to all
and sundry that its dancers are completely nude. The owners of
the cabaret also own Sheri's Ranch, a legal brothel about an
hour's ride outside of Vegas.
"It's
unbelievable the way the customers degrade you," Amber said.
"Their hands are all over you and they're always trying to have
sex with you."
I asked if she'd
ever been tempted to give in. She waited a long moment before
answering.
"Sometimes I
am," she said. "Sometimes a guy will offer a lot of money, and I
might think that could help with whatever I need for that month.
But then I think, I just can't do that. Nobody should violate my
body like that."
I asked Amber
why she was willing to talk candidly and on the record about her
experiences. She said, "I want people to know what it's like for
us. They think we're just a bunch of lowlifes who like to get
naked for money. We're not. We go through a lot."
When I asked her
if she ever wanted to get married and raise a family, she was
unequivocal.
"No" she said.
"I don't want any of that. I just feel if I get married the guy
will change and show his true colors. I don't want that to
happen to me."
She swears she's
going to school and will try to find work in the fashion
industry.
I asked if she
thought she would ever go back to dancing.
"Probably not,"
she said.
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Fantasies, Well
Meant
By BOB HERBERT
September 11,
2007
Op-Ed Columnist
I must have hit
a nerve. While in Las Vegas last week, I interviewed the mayor,
Oscar Goodman, who enthusiastically explained how legalizing
prostitution and creating a series of "magnificent brothels"
could be a boon to his city's development.
Vegas is already
a paradise for pimps, johns and perverts, and I accused the
mayor in a column of setting the tone "for the systematic,
institutionalized degradation" of women.
Mr. Goodman was
not pleased. He snarled to the local press that he had no use
for me, and added, "I'll take a baseball bat and break his head
if he ever comes here."
The mayor, who
made a name for himself as a defense lawyer for mobsters, loves
to slip into a clownish, tough-guy persona. (He never lets
anyone forget that he had a walk-on as himself in the movie
"Casino.") But behind his bluster is a serious issue that should
be addressed.
A lot of people
more thoughtful than Oscar Goodman believe that prostitution
should be legalized as a way of protecting and empowering the
women who go into the sex trade. I've lost patience with those
arguments, however well meaning. Real-world prostitution, in
whatever guise, bears no resemblance at all to the empowerment
fantasies of prostitution proponents. I have never seen such
vulnerable, powerless women as those in the sex trade, legal or
illegal.
At Sheri's
Ranch, a legal brothel about an hour's ride outside of Vegas,
the women have to respond like Pavlov's dog to a bell that might
ring at any hour of the day or night. It could be 4 a.m., and
the woman might be sleeping. Or she might not be feeling well.
Too bad.
When that
electronic bell rings, she has five minutes to get to the
assembly area, a large room where she will line up with the
other women, virtually naked, and submit to a humiliating
inspection by any prospective customer who happens to drop by.
"It's not fun,"
one of the women whispered to me during a tour of the brothel.
The first thing
to understand about prostitution, including legal prostitution,
is that the element of coercion is almost always present.
Despite the fiction that they are "independent contractors,"
most so-called legal prostitutes have pimps — the
state-sanctioned pimps who run the brothels and, in many cases,
a second pimp who controls all other aspects of their lives (and
takes the bulk of their legal earnings).
They are hardly
empowered. Years of studies have shown that most prostitutes are
pushed into the trade in their early teens by grown men. A large
percentage are victims of incest or other forms of childhood
sexual abuse. Most are dirt poor. Many are drug-addicted.
And most are
plagued by devastatingly low levels of self esteem.
And then there
are the armies of women and girls who are trafficked into the
sex trade by organized criminals, both inside and outside of the
U.S.
That a city, a
state or any other governmental entity in the U.S. could legally
sanction the sexual degradation of women and girls under any
circumstances, much less those who are so extremely vulnerable,
is an atrocity. And if you don't think legalized prostitution is
about degradation, consider the "date room" at Sheri's. That's a
small room where a quiet dinner for two can be served. Beneath
the tiny table is a couple of towels and a cushion for the woman
to kneel on.
The only one
empowered in that situation is the john.
Mayor Goodman's
concept of magnificence notwithstanding, Nevada's legal brothels
are not nice places. "The only place I've ever had a gun pulled
on me was in a legal brothel," said Melissa Farley, a
psychologist and researcher who has studied the sex trade in
Nevada for the past two and a half years.
Ms. Farley, who
is in her 60s and has the demeanor of a college professor, was
threatened at gunpoint by a legal pimp who didn't like her
attitude. "I tried to change the look on my face in a hurry,"
she said.
Any honest
investigation of the facts, as opposed to abstract theories, of
prostitution — in any form — would reveal a horror show. That's
why the authorities in so many other countries that have given
an official green light to prostitution, including Germany and
the Netherlands, have been revisiting their policies.
Legal
prostitution tends to increase, not decrease, illegal
prostitution, in part by creating a friendlier climate for
demand. It tends to increase, not decrease, sex trafficking. And
the recent explosion of prostitution in all its forms promotes
the sexualization of girls at ever younger ages.
Oscar Goodman
should be viewed as a wake-up call. As a society, we should be
offering help to the many thousands of women who would like to
escape prostitution, and providing alternatives to those in
danger of being pulled into it.
http://select.nytimes.com/2007/09/11/opinion/11herbert.html?th&emc=th
Legalization
Without Representation
Sept. 11, 2007
Readers respond
to Bob Herbert's Sept. 11 column, "Fantasies,
Well Meant."
Scott Willett,
New York: Hi, Bob. First, let me say that I agree with almost
everything I've ever read in your column, but I don't know how I
feel about your opinion on prostitution. I haven't studied it
the way you apparently have, and doubtless many women are
victimized in such a profession. But it's hard for me to
understand why a woman should be restrained from using her body
the way she sees fit. If the classic feminist argument about
abortion — that a woman should have a right to control her own
body — works on that issue, why shouldn't it work when a woman
wants to do something with her body that isn't as highly valued?
Where do we draw the line? If a woman isn't forced into that
situation, and I certainly don't argue that she should be, then
why is it wrong for her to freely choose it, whether or not you
think it devalues her?
I've never been
to a prostitute, but I have difficulty in seeing the argument
that two consenting adults shouldn't be able to make any
arrangement they want, so long as neither of them is doing
something to the other that isn't mutually acceptable. And this
culture's take on sex is far from healthy. The need for sex,
sometimes as close as a person might be able to get to
experiencing love, is something completely human. Who says that
prostitutes don't play a valuable role in society — perhaps even
reducing violence among men who would otherwise get into real
trouble? I have no facts or figures on this stuff, and you've
obviously looked into it in some detail, but my gut tells me
it's wrong for you or someone of your turn of mind to impose
your values this way in a free society. It seems to make sense
to regulate the practice, allow women who do it some protection
under the law, and try to limit the spread of disease in
enforcing medical oversight and whatnot. You've probably heard
all of this before and so disagree with what I've said, but I'd
be interested in a response if you have time. If not, I
certainly understand. Best wishes and, as always, thanks for
writing in such a thought-provoking way.
Cory E.
Friedman, Crown Point, N.Y.:
Unfortunately, it's a slippery slope when society legalizes sin
for profit. First gambling, then prostitution, eventually
extortion and murder for hire. Each step further desensitizes
society to conduct which can never be stamped out, given human
nature, but should be suppressed, for reasons we used to be able
to understand — like it's just wrong a judgmental word no longer
uttered in polite company and detrimental to society as a whole.
Humans are just incapable of seeing the line between liberty and
license.
Marty Hykin,
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada:
I read your columns and generally find myself in strong
agreement with you on all issues. Prostitution is not a central
issue in my personal life but, as it happens, I have a friend
here in Victoria who is bound and determined to establish a
legal brothel here. For whatever reasons of her own, she has a
concern for the women in the sex trade, and her notion is to
provide a decent, safe, non-exploitive working environment for
her own employees, and to use the profits of this business to
provide benefits, education, pensions or whatever she can to
other sex trade workers, either to make their lives safer or to
help them out of the sex trades altogether.
As you have
obviously put much thought into this subject, I wonder if there
is any room in your thinking for the sort of thing my friend
here is proposing? What accommodation can we make in our
societies to reduce the harm? In what way should we think about
it? Like many other ills, I'm sure it would vanish in a utopian
world, but for the time being, what?
I see the
working girls on the street here in Victoria almost daily, many
of them quite young, many addicted, many are aboriginal natives.
All seem unhappy and feel as though they have no alternatives. I
know that were I to take each one and give her a warm place to
live, a decent job, etc., she would only be replaced by another.
I'm not asking for, nor expecting, a simple answer, but would be
most interested in your thoughts on where we can hold these
people, this business in our minds and hearts.
Thanks, and
thanks for your good work.
MJCIV, Mass.:
The sociologist Emile Durkheim wrote about how there is only so
much deviance a society can stand before it has to reform
itself, making behaviors that used to be taboo acceptable, then
drifting once again toward greater deviance. Legalized
prostitution is a perfect example of this phenomenon. Sickening.
We have lost our way.
Harry Abraham,
Philadelphia:
I don't fully agree with everything Mr. Herbert has to say about
prostitution. But to the extent he is correct, he also makes the
case for legalizing drugs.
Here in
Philadelphia and nearby Camden it appears that most prostitutes
are drug addicts. And Mr. Herbert is correct that in many cases
the girl has a man — not always a pimp in the traditional sense
— with whom she shares her proceeds. Many of these girls are
white, suburban or rural women who turned to drugs out of
boredom and came to the places where they could earn the money
to support their habit. Men who will not sell their bodies turn
to misdemeanor theft to support their habits. Sometimes the
happy couple will rob together.
The goal of
making drugs legal would have to be to eliminate most crime now
related to drugs. This is not limited to putting dealers and
distributors out of business. To achieve this goal one of two
things would have to happen: The legal price would have to be
well below the street price resulting in less prostitution and
theft to earn the same amount of drugs, or — in a significantly
enlightened society — drugs would be provided free for anyone
stating that they would otherwise turn to crime.
The addicts that
can afford the drugs are of sufficient number that providing
free drugs should not cost anything for the taxpayers, who save
considerable money by not getting robbed. And the profits
generated by selling drugs can go into treatment and education.
Right now there's very little public treatment for addicts
wanting to get off the street. And society does nothing but put
roadblocks in the way of addicts trying to get sober. As for
education, it has been remarkably successful in reducing
cigarette smoking.
Legalizing drugs
is often a flashpoint for arguments. But I don't know one person
that avoids heroin solely because he or she would be breaking
the law by using. How many such people do you know?
Tom Healy, New
York: I found your column about the troubling consequences
of legalized prostitution very persuasive. Among other things,
it made me wonder what your thoughts are about legalizing drugs
— a public policy move I've always assumed would be, on balance,
a wiser strategy than the so-called war on drugs. But maybe not.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this parallel issue
where human frailty, pain and criminality always seem to mix.
Thanks.
Darden Cavalcade, Alexandria, Va.:
Mr. Herbert, I don't mean to sound like the defender of a trade
that I despise, but I think you have used trivial examples to
make your case for exploitation. Millions work in perfectly
honorable occupations where they are expected to respond to
signals in the performance of their work and must work against
deadlines — airline pilots and reporters, for example.
And when you
claim coercion in prostitution you are exactly right. In
legalized bordellos, the coercion is often from family members.
You ought to read a book entitled “Brothel,” written by a doctor
who observed the operation of a legal brothel in Nevada as part
of a public health study.
As between
evils, legal prostitution is less than illegal prostitution with
its pimps, beatings, drugs, and disease. Prostitutes lead a
horrible life, I believe, but some forms are less awful than
others.
Leora Lev,
Brookline, Mass.:
Thank you for your lucid, compassionate, humane and urgently
necessary article, and for standing up to Las Vegas Mayor Oscar
Goodman. As a women's- and gender-studies professor, I am
dismayed by the renewed vigor with which our culture — as well,
inexplicably, as some of my third-wave feminist counterparts —
is glorifying stripping, prostitution, and sex clubs as somehow
liberating for women, presumably permitting the female body a
new sexual freedom and/or civil rights that those stodgy
second-wavers Gloria Steinem, Betty Freidan, or, if they have
ever bothered to read her, Simone de Beauvoir, would repress.
But given the prevalence of interconnected misogyny, homophobia,
and racism that gets performed within our current penchant for
making a spectacle of the female body in yet new forms of
debasement — pole-dancing parties, TV shows in which women
compete to undergo multiple invasive surgeries to become The
Swan, in which beauty is posited as a white, blond Barbie doll
ideal the child-prostitute gear now touted by mainstream
clothiers, training little girls for their glorious roles as
friends with benefits to older boys, the new labioplasty
surgeries undergone by perfectly normal women so they can look
like Playboy bunnies and the desperate situations of the vast
majority of women who do not choose but are forced, in myriad
ways, into stripping and prostitution — it is refreshing to see
a dissenting voice asking us all to reconsider our policies,
practices, and the deeply misogynist attitudes at their core.
Thank you for standing up to yet one more blustering bully and
would-be gangster
Suzy, Boca
Raton, Fla.: Last summer we vacationed in Holland with very dear friends
who are Dutch. The husband admits that his first sexual
experiences were with a legal prostitute, as is common among
young Dutch boys. His comment on the positive is that this
initiation works well for both the boys and the girlfriends they
later initiate. He also commends the government for keeping the
whole thing very healthy and safe. On the other hand, he and his
wife are quick to point out that those women are rarely Dutch
themselves, and what degradation does that in itself imply?
James Linkin,
New York: Legally, it is often difficult to distinguish between
sex for money and sex for other considerations. In reality, sex
is always traded for something of value, tangible or no, even
within marriage.
The problem of
exploitation arises because, whether or not it is legal or
tolerated or both, sex workers are uniquely vulnerable. Unless
they are directly protected by the state, they will become crime
victims. And yes, sex work is inherently humiliating and
degrading, and relatively few sex workers are not deeply scarred
by the experience, if not ultimately killed by it.
Nearly all
societies view sex work as a permanent indictment on one's
personal record, for lack of a better phrase. But that
disapprobation is in part what creates demand. And even nudity
on the Web, even when not salacious, can wreck a person's
career, as we have recently seen. That speaks more about our
attitudes than any real transgression of morals or dignity.
What we should
all be able to agree upon is that the point of enforcement for
the illegal sex trade is generally wrong and counterproductive.
People — not just women — who work in the sex trade should never
be at risk of arrest, and should always receive our full support
and protection. It is their patrons, and especially their pimps,
who should be the object of our enduring and unyielding wrath.
Miranda Worthen,
San Francisco:
Mr. Herbert misunderstands the goal of many who advocate
legalizing prostitution. Anti-prostitution laws were originally
a way to punish women, not protect them. As the laws stand where
prostitution is illegal, a prostitute has standing to report
crimes against her or to seek help to leave an abusive brothel
situation. Current laws continue to penalize the women, who, as
he pointed out, are often coerced or find themselves in
threatening situations if they work in a brothel. Laws that
decriminalize the act of being a prostitute but criminalize
pimps, brothel owners and brothel managers would make it easier
for women to report crimes perpetrated against them. It would
also make it easier for women to leave abusive situations.
Both England and
Sweden have recently implemented laws seeking to do just that,
although in Sweden these laws criminalize soliciting sex and so
prostitutes complain that it forces them further underground.
Almost no one who advocates for the decriminalization of
prostitution believes that prostitution is a great career. We
just believe that women should not be exploited by a legal
system that punishes them alone, and where they are also easy
prey to corrupt police who take a little on the side instead of
bringing charges.
New book: brothels as concentration camps? From RGJ
Tuesday,
September 11, 2007
People who live outside of Nevada have a lot of unusual ideas
about what it's like to live in the Silver State. When we
encounter outsiders, those of us who live here aren't surprised
when the of discussion turns to one of several topics: gambling,
drinking and legalized prostitution.
In my experience, all three are largely misunderstood by
non-Nevadans. Spend any time here and you'll realize that
gambling just isn't something many locals do. In fact, the only
time most of us step into a casino is for a show or a nice
dinner. On those rare occasions, we'll usually skip the gaming
floor altogether and head straight to our destination.
The uniquely Nevada trait that you can get a drink at any time
of the day (or week, for that matter - in parts of my home state
of Georgia, it's still illegal to buy and sell alcohol on a
Sunday) is of little consequence to most of us working stiffs.
Which
turns us to the holy grail of all great Nevada misconceptions:
brothels. Yes, we have them. Yes, they are legal in certain
counties and no, they're not really something most of us spend
any amount of time thinking about. From the outside, brothels
are unassuming and even a bit depressing; little more than
double-wide trailers tucked against craggy hills and protected
by metal fences topped with conspicuous surveillance cameras.
So, it's easy for an outsider to look at Nevada's storied
history - you know, the one with the leisure-suited gangsters
and the holes in the desert filled with bodies; the one where
Bugsy Siegel parked his car on a dusty stretch of lonely highway
and willed Las Vegas into existence (never happened) and make
some assumptions about the present. Which is exactly what seems
to be going on
here.
In her new book, Prostitution and Trafficking in Nevada: Making
the Connections, author Melissa Farley appears to have written a
pretty scathing account of life within the brothel system,
evoking charged images of places more akin to concentration
camps and prisons than the all-party-all-the-time sorority
houses a television series like Cathouse would lead us to
believe.
In Connections, Farley tells of greasy, pistol-waving pimps who
regularly starve their bi-polar, schizophrenic girls in order to
maintain their skinny figures. She also speaks of supposed laws
that prevent the sex workers from entering bars in a certain
city (pardon my French, but where the hell is she talking
about?) and some draconian regulation that prohibits the girls
from owning cars. It only gets more bizarre from there.
I'll let you
read the article and judge for yourself, but I will say
this: Farley spent two years working closely with the sex
workers, madams and johns. It would be a shame if she came away
with anything other than a straight-up factual account; one that
doesn't serve to push her own personal agenda. But, as we've
seen, it's awfully hard for folks not to do that when they're
talking about Nevada.
posted by James
Ball at
10:20 AM
7 Comments:
Ryan Jerz said...
James,
Have you read
this book? It paints a similar picture in the sense of the
places and environment just not being great, but Albert actually
holds the women up as heroes instead of victims. It's certainly
a different culture than what many of us can comprehend.
posted by
Ryan Jerz @ 12:48 PM
James Ball said...
Ryan, not yet,
but it looks like a well-balanced account. Thanks for the
suggestion.
posted by
James Ball @ 12:52 PM
Jasmine said...
I did read it,
and I found it to be not only poorly written, but from a Native
Nevadans perspective, highly insulting to those of us who live
here. The author was completely one-sided, and chose several
interviewees who have never been legal prostitutes in the state.
It seems to me that she was merely trying to push her own
opinions on those who may not know any better. Further more, I
know of no one that lives in this state that feels this is a
necessary part of our economy. Some of us feel more strongly
about it than others, but I highly doubt the health department,
law enforcement, and state officials would continue to allow
"food to be thrown over a fence" to feed anyone. Granted though,
a lot of the brothels are in trailers... which doesn't paint a
pretty picture about them. I was really disappointed in the
book. If the author wanted people to really see what legalized
prostitution was about, she would have done more responsible
reporting, and let the reader make up his/her mind.
posted by
Jasmine @ 1:22 PM
Katie said...
What a JOKE! My
father used to work for Joe at mustang ranch... (20 years ago or
so but still) Those girls were treated A LOT better then most
employees, especially any casino employees.
Every industry has problems.. I'm sure you could find a good
handful of employees from any industry that feel they are
unfairly treated and stretch the truth, especially to a hungry
writer who is determined to ask the right questions to get the
answers she is looking for.
Why weren't legal prostitutes interviewed or talked about (I
haven't read the book just the article)
Unless something has horribly changed since the 80s.. legal
brothels are NOT a bad thing and Joe and Sally (mustang ranch)
used to treat the girls there like they were worth a million
bucks. Yes, if they did something wrong they got in trouble (if
you did drugs for example.. you got kicked out) but heck they
sure did get taken care of when they did things right. Food
through bars? OMG my dad had to cook full course meals, full
buffets basically ANYTHING the girls wanted he had to make.
Maybe the Conforte's were just exceptional and I'm wrong.. but
I'm sure if you talked to any of the women who worked for them I
bet they agree.
What a great way to bring another bad rap for Nevada who the
heck keeps deciding to publish these types of stupid books! It
makes me sick to think people make money on this crap when that
is all it is!!
posted by Katie
@ 1:29 PM
Mark Robison said...
Having spoken
with a number of workers at the new Mustang, the old Mustang,
the Old Bridge and another whose name escapes me, the women
uniformly loved their jobs -- and I wasn't a potential customer
for whom they had their game face on. Just a journalist. For
some it was a once a year thing to earn spending cash, for
others it was a respite from their crappy "real world" jobs of
being waitresses or working retail. Admittedly, some warned of
the dangers of getting addicted to the good money so you put
yourself in bad situations. But the description of the book
makes it seem wildly off base.
Now women who work in places where prostitution is not legal?
They're in real danger. And overseas? The horror is
unimaginable. I heard today on Democracy Now that a women's
rights group that has chronicled some 4,000 Iraqi women who've
been kidnapped into sexual slavery since the U.S. invasion.
posted by
Mark Robison @ 1:46 PM
Anonymous said...
I would have to
agree that this article was poorly written and as for her
investigation I think it was more of her one sided opinion about
the subject. There are two sides to every story and hers just
paints her own beliefs about something she knows nothing about
nor can investigate well enough to give the reader a true
account of the situation. I am tired of people from out of state
sticking their noses in our State and trying to change things
that have been around for centuries. This still is the old west
and we like it that way.
posted by
Anonymous @ 1:52 PM
D said...
Read the
article....it's a load of crap. America is still a free-will
country the last I looked. It's slanted and does nothing to
further Nevadas respect from others. It was rediculous. I'm sure
the girls are free to leave........they just get used to the
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
posted by
D @ 2:02 PM
http://www.rgj.com/blogs/books/2007/09/new-book-brothels-as-concentration.html
Las Vegas Sun
Letter: Mayor's remarks not helping Vegas at all
September 11,
2007
Ah yes, once
again our illustrious "Martini Mayor" does us proud. Apparently
he didn't like New York Times columnist Bob Herbert's recent
column, in which he stated that Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman
said that he would support legalized prostitution in Las Vegas.
The reason the
mayor didn't like it? Because Herbert quoted him out of context
and neglected to add that Goodman told him that the idea was not
on the table because Las Vegas residents "weren't ready for it
yet." And, for this egregious omission, Goodman stated, in true
"ex-mob lawyer" fashion, "If he comes to town, I'll crack his
head with a baseball bat!"
Way to go,
Mayor! The silver-tongued devil strikes again, sounding like Joe
Pesci in "Goodfellas." Ya gotta love it.
And please
explain how the added context to Mr. Herbert's remarks changes
the fact that he supports legalized prostitution in Las Vegas
(which was really the point in the first place)?
And one more
thing. Why do we keep electing this guy?
Linda Caterine,
Henderson
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/debate/2007/sep/11/566624358.html
The town
pickled herring
Let's
recap: Oscar Goodman's shtick was a distraction from a study on
prostitution in Nevada. Then columnist and Goodmanophobe Jon
Ralston proved to be a distraction from Oscar Goodman's shtick
being a distraction from a study on prostitution in Nevada, at
least for those who dislike Ralston and/or find Goodman
credible. And tucked in between, here and there, were some
snippets of actual discussion about prostitution in Nevada. Evil
incarnate, or economic empowerment? "Systematic,
insitutionalized degradation" of women, or women being free
to "choose
how they want to use their bodies in the marketplace?"
For expert
insight, we considered trying to reach Louisiana Republican
senator,
diaper-fetishist and avid whoremonger David Vitter. But
National Republican Senatorial Commisseration chairman and
staunch Vitter apologist Sen. John Ensign, R-Slanker, has passed
along memos to his colleagues written by the bright young things
on Little Mikey Slanker's staff and instructing all the big
strong War Party senators that whatever else they do, "do
not engage liberal blogs directly." So call us cut and run
defeatists, but we didn't even try to reach the embodiment of
Republican Party morality and the poster boy for the party's
deep belief in and practice of strong family values, i.e.,
Vitter.
Instead, we
asked the Nevada chapter of the National Organization of Women
what to make about all the recent professional talk about
professional sex. True, NOW might not have as much expertise on
prostitutes and their working conditions as the Ensign-sheltered
Vitter. But nor is the organization noted for its lying, faux
sincerity or an eager and shameless embrace of full-on hypocrisy
for political gain, like Vitter (and, for that matter, Ensign).
So we figured NOW would do.
The following
statement was helpfully sent over from Nevada NOW's Jessica
Brown:
As a national
organization, NOW does not take a position on legal or illegal
prostitution. Taking a position on prostitution is a red
herring that distracts from the issues that contribute to
prostitution. 71% of Americans earning less than a living wage
are women, and many of those women are the head of household.
500,000 women and children are trafficked into the United States
every year, and girls involved in prostitution are increasingly
getting younger, dropping from 14, to 13 and 12 years of age.
Scholars and activists on both sides of the legalize
prostitution debate can agree that human trafficking is
unacceptable. Also, some argue that the chronic underfunding of
domestic violence and sexual violence shelters can contribute to
forced prostitution.
NOW works hard on ameliorating these problems. To take a
position on legalized prostitution would require us to draw
conclusions based on theories and conflicting evidence in the
scholarly debate. We would rather work on root causes of the
problems, problems that we can at least make some headway in
improving through grassroots lobbying and education.
First, if a
position on prostitution is a red herring, and Goodman is a
distraction from a red herring, what does that make Goodman? A
red zooplankton, perhaps? A smoked sardine of an altogether
different color? A herring that has been preserved through
fermentation?
Second, 'tis
true that people on both sides share the same position on
transporting women and girls over state lines or international
borders against their will to become compulsory sex workers:
they're against it. And call us naive, but human trafficking
seems like a far bigger issue than the argument that seems to
have taken hold 'round here of late over whether some women are
sex workers by choice.
If they want to
play, the legalization crowd might want to develop a strong case
on how legal brothels will stem human trafficking through
rigorous government licensing requirements, inspection,
monitoring and strict regulation (which of course would be
unlikely to happen under the government-hating administration of
the nation's worst governor, who thinks he should be able to
have sex with unwilling partners without having to pay for it
anyway). Developing such a case wouldn't sweep legal brothels
onto the scene any time soon. But it would make the community's
discussion more meaningful, assuming the community is going to
continue to have a discussion beyond, oh, next week.
Meantime,
inasmuch as no headlong rush to legalization can be spotted on
the horizon, those opposed to legalization might want to back
away from their gallant fight against a straw man and shift
their priorities, using their considerable passions and talents
to help a state that is notorious for policy foot-dragging
figure out how better to crack down — not on streetwalkers and
johns, but on human traffickers.
And
as for obscure Assemblyman Bob Beers (pictured, at left, because
we know, we know, nobody's ever seen him before), it's easy to
see why he is disappointed that having the same name as another
batshit crazy ideologue hasn't yet translated into a similarly
visible public profile, as the unknown assemblyman so clearly
hoped and planned. His call to outlaw prostitution might be just
the ticket to garner his long sought-after headlines and stroke
his ego. But since there is about 3,264 times as much illegal
prostitution in Nevada as legal prostitution (admittedly an
estimate), his bill doesn't doesn't do jack to address the
larger issue. Oh, which larger issue? Pick one.
In fact, it's
tempting to say Beers' contribution is even less relevant than a
Goodman-Ralston spat — except the available bandwidth on the
public dialog spectrum for things that are less relevant than a
Goodman-Ralston spat is very, very narrow (and most of that
space is already occupied by the
perpetual pissing match between R-J publisher Sherm
Frederick and Las Vegas Sun patriarch Brian Greenspun).
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Bob Beers
(republican), of assembly district 21 used the other bob beers
name, or, I should say, lack of familiarity among the not so
bright voters of aforesaid assembly district, to get elected to
the assembly, so now he introduced a bill to outlaw prostituion
in Nevada, as governor gibbons (republican of ?) has requested
and said he would sign if someone would send one to him, so
maybe again he seeks cheap name recognition or seeks a job in
the governor's patronage pool when he fails to retain his
assembly seat 21.
Posted by: |
09/12/2007 at 01:08 PM
Gibbons couldn't
sign a bill outlawing prostitution. As his failure at McCormick
and Schmick proved, not even a woman who is supposedly falling
down drunk would go to bed with him. If he wants to get laid, he
has to pay for it.
Posted by:
Keeping Them Honest |
09/12/2007 at 02:44 PM
A comment from
Vitter? brilliant.
Posted by: Larry
Craig |
09/12/2007 at 02:53 PM
How about a
Gleaner contest? To which funny-named "Committee" was Hizzoner
going to be named by the Clinton campaign, in what would have
undoubtedly been a "major announcement," before he got quoted on
the NYT Op-Ed page calling brothels "marvelous" and threatening
to hit a columnist in the head with a baseball bat?
a) "Winning in
the West" Spokesman?
b) Town Drunk Advisory Committee?
c) Homeless Outreach Board?
d) Norman Hsu Defense Fund?
Posted by: Team
Rory |
09/12/2007 at 04:54 PM
No shit?
Posted by: |
09/12/2007 at 06:17 PM
http://www.lasvegasgleaner.com/las_vegas_gleaner/2007/09/the-issue-of-os.html
Las Vegas Sun
Letter: How Goodman views women is on display
Today: September
12, 2007 at 7:36:4 PDT
This appalling
caricature of a mayor has insulted and will encounter the
resentment of thousands of Las Vegans with his suggestion of
turning this city into "brothel city." Mayor Oscar Goodman's
glandular mentality has now conceived of buildings to house this
decadence.
I find it
totally unacceptable, yet those to whom he appeals may not; for
greed is their venue and for them it may be an inviting thought.
It is a revolting possibility, to say the least.
Many parents who
are already aware of the loathsome activities in parts of Las
Vegas are trying daily to instill clean ideas, ethics and humane
behavior into the minds of their children.
Further,
Goodman's suggestion is indicative of his level of respect for
and value of young women. In the Old West a man of his ilk would
have been ridden out of town on a rail. It's not a bad idea!
Madelyn Olds,
Las Vegas
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/debate/2007/sep/12/566675910.html
Hands tied on prostitution
Federal grants create a
chilling effect for research that may be used to argue for
legalization
September 15,
2007
By Abigail Goldman, Las Vegas Sun
Las Vegas Sun
With high-profile reports on prostitution in Las Vegas and
recent national press attention scrutinizing Nevada's sex
industry, one local observer had a novel idea: In the interest
of education, distribute a study on legal brothels to the Metro
task force that tackles human trafficking in the valley.
It was an idea that set into motion a series of events some
argue is evidence the government's effort to combat human
trafficking is being used to advance an agenda to abolish
prostitution, one that prohibits certain discourse on
prostitution and , in so doing, hinders real study of the
subject.
The idea was floated in an e-mail sent Aug. 27 by Christina
Hernandez, director at Las Vegas' Rape Crisis Center, to Terri
Miller, director of Metro's Anti-Trafficking League Against
Slavery. In the e-mail, acquired by the Sun, Hernandez cheerily
suggests that a 2005 study by UNLV sociologists Barbara Brents
and Kate Hausbeck might make an informative read.
Of the 25-page study, titled "Violence and Legalized Brothel
Prostitution in Nevada, Examining Safety, Risk and Prostitution
Policy," Hernandez wrote: "It's an amazing article. These
professors have done extensive work with our brothel system here
in Nevada. I believe the more information we can get out there
the better."
Then she signed off: "Thanks!"
Miller wrote back 54 minutes later: No dice. She can't pass
the study out. She's not allowed.
Then she signed off: "Thanks for understanding."
Metro's anti-human trafficking program, ATLAS, is sustained
by a $370,000 grant from the Bureau of Justice Assistance. Like
all other bureau-funded projects that combat or investigate
human trafficking in the United States, ATLAS is not allowed to
use grant money to "promote, support or advocate" the
legalization or practice of prostitution.
This "special condition," made clear to all grant recipients,
reflects the federal government's view that prostitution is
fundamentally oppressive and inexorably linked with human
trafficking.
It's a funding caveat that might go over like gravy in any
other state.
But in Nevada, with its legal brothels and permissive
"culture of prostitution," as researcher Melissa Farley
described it this month, determining what does and doesn't
promote, support or advocate the legalization or practice of
prostitution is complicated.
And controversial. Brents and Hausbeck, authors of the report
in question, say their work advocates nothing. It's an
interpretation of the data uncovered in research, peer-reviewed
and published in an academic journal, where personal opinions
are edited out, Hausbeck said.
The hang-up is that their research indicates the state's
legal brothels minimize the risk of sexually transmitted
diseases and the threat of violence for prostitutes thus
employed.
So Miller, trying to play by the rules and keep her program
going, chose to err on the side of caution. She determined the
study appeared to violate the grant condition and decided it was
best left undistributed to other ATLAS members.
"We are talking about a very large grant and program here,
and I am not going to do anything to jeopardize the grant,"
Miller said when asked several days later.
Critics of the policy say Miller's caution illustrates how a
rule that deters grant recipients from discussing certain
aspects of prostitution for fear of losing funding inhibits
unbiased, academic study of the subject.
Hausbeck calls it an attack on science. Allen Lichtenstein,
general counsel of the American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada,
says it "flies in the face of the First Amendment."
"When you have a preconceived position that is being touted
and even legitimate academic research that reaches different
conclusions is banned from the government-supported approach,
then you are not really dealing with research anymore,"
Lichtenstein said. "Then you're really dealing with propaganda."
Farley, a California-based researcher who recently released
an almost 300-page study titled "Prostitution and Trafficking in
Nevada, Making the Connections," completed research with help
from federal grant money. In the study, Farley concludes legal
prostitution does not make prostitutes safer and that
"prostitution is sexual predation, plain and simple."
That Farley could receive federal money to conduct her
research while the UNLV sociologists seemingly cannot is
frustrating to the professors , who argue that the grant
stipulation precludes any sociological finding before research
has begun.
"How a public agency can be allowed to promote one side and
not the other is contradictory , " Brents said. "Prostitution is
much more multifaceted. People do it for different reasons, and
it's not so simple."
Privately, those familiar with the grant stipulation say
local nonprofit agencies receiving federal money earmarked for
anti-human trafficking efforts worry that handing out condoms
will jeopardize their eligibility to receive the federal money,
lest condom distribution be seen as a tacit support or promotion
of prostitution.
Calls to local nonprofit agencies went unreturned. So did
several calls to officials at the Justice and State department s
. The State Department also has a policy of denying grant money
to foreign nongovernmental organizations that support legal,
state-regulated prostitution.
Hausbeck says officials in Washington, D.C., keep a
close eye on Nevada's legal prostitution while maintaining a
pointed distance.
The professor traveled to Tampa, Fla., in 2003 with then-U.S.
Attorney Daniel Bogden to attend a federal conference on human
trafficking where then-Attorney General John Ashcroft and
President Bush were featured speakers. After the conference,
Bogden began plans to launch a task force addressing human
trafficking in Las Vegas. It was assumed that Hausbeck would be
a member, "exactly the kind of person you'd want on the task
force," Bogden said.
There were concerns. Bogden sensed there might be problems
with Hausbeck's work studying legal brothels, and wondered
whether it would jeopardize the task force's ability to get
government money. "I had my suspicions," Bogden said.
Hausbeck pulled out of the project shortly after for fear of
hindering progress.
That task force went onto become ATLAS, and Brents has
continued to do research without federal money.
"The point of scientific inquiry is that we follow the facts
and the data," she said. "We draw conclusions without regard for
politics."
Abigail Goldman can be reached at 259-8806 or at
abigail.goldman@lasvegassun.com.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2007/sep/15/566624113.html
Editorial: On the
local prostitution debate
In a city where
sex sells, are women always the victim or are they beholden to
their choices?
By
The Editorial Staff, Staff Writer (Rebel
Yell)
Published on
September 17, 2007
The Rebel Yell editorial staff has been tossing around opinions
and getting into heated arguments about the last few weeks of
media coverage given to Nevada prostitution issues since the
release of researcher Melissa Farley's book, "Prostitution and
Trafficking in
Nevada: Making the Connections. "
An anti-prostitution press conference was held two weeks ago, and
subsequent articles in local and national papers have brought
attention to a field of work seen in both legal and illegal
settings, whether forced or chosen. Responses include a "New
York Times" piece by Bob Herbert saying "there is probably no
city in America where women are treated worse than in
Las Vegas."
Farley, Herbert and their opponents have addressed issues within
prostitution, such as gender, race, money, legality, violence
and safety.
The watered-down version of the anti-prostitution Nevada
whorehouse corporation argument is that Mayor Oscar Goodman is
crazy for wanting to legalize brothels in Las Vegas.
Prostitution is illegal in Vegas, though Farley noted in her book
that 50 percent of people she surveyed on the street thought it
was legal here, and that women in
Nevada are disrespected and
exploited because of the sexual atmosphere.
Kate Hausebeck, senior associate dean in the UNLV Graduate
College, sociology professor Barbara Brents and sociology
doctoral student Crystal Jackson wrote a response to Herbert and
Farley in the Sept. 16 Las Vegas Review-Journal, attesting to
their 10 years of research in prostitution issues.
Their arguments resonate more closely with our own. The one
argument we focused on, however, is that of legal brothels.
Though disagreements in our office delved into moral issues, with
a few of us adamantly raising our fists over what we felt was
the immorality of selling sex, there was doubtless agreement
that no matter how much we oppose the IDEA of prostitution, it
would happen regardless. In addition, the places where it is
legal can actually regulate brothels for safety, health, payment
and age, race and gender inequities.
Though the sex industry is in no way safe and rewarding across
the board, as the three
UNLV
researchers point out in their editorial, it is not all coercive
and exploitative either.
Living and going to college in
Las Vegas,
we have either become desensitized to the sexualized
advertisements or, at least, don't see it as the downfall of
respect for women.
As the media industry knows very well, sex sells, and just
because Las Vegas lives its nickname of Sin City in the flesh
doesn't mean the rest of the country is pure and untouched by
one of the biggest moneymakers for U.S. economy.
Students, friends and acquaintances could be strippers,
prostitutes, call girls or whatever else the industry is having
them do. But many of them choose this path, so why not make it
safe instead of pushing the industry into the shadows and
manifesting even more possible acts of violence, unfair pay,
underage prostitution and other downsides of an industry that is
far from disappearing?
The debate is likely to continue for some time, as it does in
this office every time one of us mentions a strip club, a
brothel or the objectificaiton of a female.
In the end, though, Herbert and Farley seem to forget one major
thing. No matter how awful or misdirected they may be, women and
people in general should be able to make what ever decisions
they want in regards to their bodies and lives.
http://www.unlvrebelyell.com/article/2007/09/17/editorial-on-the-local-prostitution-debate/
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